If you had a brand new VZ58

I have shot cases of surplus, steel cased, corrosive ammunition through my VZ58, as well as a number of other Milsurps. I clean them when I get home from the Range and have never had a problem. All my guns are like new. Don't know what people's problem is with surplus ammo. Sure, if you are going to shoot it and then it's too much trouble to clean your gun you may have problems, but if it's too much trouble to clean your gun in a peacetime setting, you probably don't deserve to own anything of any value.
 
Buy the cheap stuff and shoot a lot of it.

I have shot matches on a saturday and only cleaned on sunday night and everything was good. The corrosive ammo hype was blown out of proportion by people who just didnt clean their rifles at all and stored them away.
 
Cross94 said:
I've used surplus ammo exclusively since I bought mine in 2014. Mix of Russian, Czech, and Chinese. Benched with a 3x optic I've managed to get 2-3 MOA, perfectly adequate if I do say so myself. It's not a problem to leave it a few hours before cleaning, but you'll definitely want to do it sooner than later. After getting home I do a quick field strip, pour some hot water down the barrel and wipe all the important bits with oil. Takes about 20 minutes and I have yet to see rust anywhere.
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more or less my procedure too. i use hot water directly from the laundry tub straight through the bore and gas system. 99% of the couple thkusand rounds or so have all been corrosive. mostly czech and chinese. not a spec of anything anywhere
 
People tend to overthink it, clean it when you get home. Corrosive doesn’t mean acid lol, if your that worried about it bring a thermos of hot water with a bit of ballistol in it and pour it down the breech, then run a dry patch through it. Will take a minute or two to do, then fully clean when home. I’ve left rifles for longer than 3-4 hrs before I cleaned them and saw no rust anywhere.
 
Butcherbill said:
People tend to overthink it, clean it when you get home. Corrosive doesn’t mean acid lol, if your that worried about it bring a thermos of hot water with a bit of ballistol in it and pour it down the breech, then run a dry patch through it. Will take a minute or two to do, then fully clean when home. I’ve left rifles for longer than 3-4 hrs before I cleaned them and saw no rust anywhere.
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Good advice if one is worried about corrosion. In 30yrs of corrosive ammo zero rust on any of my rifles...just hot water and a little oil after you get home and all is good. Sometimes I can't clean until the next day.

If you are going to clean/rinse at the range...the nice thing about Ballistol is that it is bio-degradable, being based on mineral oil, so it won't harm the environment. Its always a good thing to protect our environment , and anti's/enironmentalists won't have an opportunity blame a shooter for for dumping destructive chemicals at whatever area you may be shooting/rinsing.
 
C.308 said:
soldiers shot corrosive and im sure sometimes they couldnt clean it out within 2 hours.
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During war time, the soldiers would simply pee down the barrel, till they have time to do a proper cleaning.

Something 'bout the acidity, or something, in the urine.(true story)

Be sure to clean it as soon as possible when returning home.

Also, be extra diligent 'bout proving your rifle "safe", beforehand.
 
I shoot anything through mine and just clean it when I get home. I have zero corrosion on mine. It doesn't take long at all to clean, super easy platform.
 
ballistol mixed with water for surplus ammo....strip and sray it while the rifle is warm/hot and its dry pretty fast.

i keep a 80/20 water/ballistol mix in a mustard bottle.....it gets the best funny looks at the range

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also have a spray bottle for 90/10 water/ballistol

only draw back is winter, in that case i use noncorrosive or the commercial arosol spray ballistol
 
I have a restricted vz58 one of the first ones in Canada when marstar brought them in its had several thousand corrosive surplus rnds through it sometimes it went days before I cleaned it its fine no rust or pitting

I bought mine for $600.00ish with like 8 mags and pouches bayonet and bipod and yes the czech ammo was like $150.00 a crate
 
Mine is from that same first batch.
contact148 said:
I have a restricted vz58 one of the first ones in Canada when marstar brought them in its had several thousand corrosive surplus rnds through it sometimes it went days before I cleaned it its fine no rust or pitting

I bought mine for $600.00ish with like 8 mags and pouches bayonet and bipod and yes the czech ammo was like $150.00 a crate
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Before I sold mine to Mike in Canmore... if I couldn't get home to do a 100% job... ie campling... I used to spray it down with windex. Give the barrel and piston a quick swab. Then pour hot water all over the areas exposed to the gasses from operation. The hotter the better. Campfire boiled usually. The hot water would heat up the gun and it would dry super quick. Then hose it down with some G96. Days later at home I would give it a full going over. In the range of 3000 corrosive rounds and it was rust free when I last saw it.
 
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