If You HAD to Scope a 94.....
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Tucker.Grose
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DAK47 finally has told us that it is a AE model that he has. The whole point to AE is to enable a top mount scope.
My eyes are going the way of many and I have run the course of original open sights, receiver sight ( Williams and Skinner), and am now with a 1-4x20 Leupold.
The scope is working fine, except on lower power , until it gets past about 2 1/4, the field of view is so wide that you can see the front sight and barrel. I find this distracting. I took the front sight off of one gun.
Others recommendation for a fixed 2.5 or one starting that power or greater sounds good to me.
My eyes are going the way of many and I have run the course of original open sights, receiver sight ( Williams and Skinner), and am now with a 1-4x20 Leupold.
The scope is working fine, except on lower power , until it gets past about 2 1/4, the field of view is so wide that you can see the front sight and barrel. I find this distracting. I took the front sight off of one gun.
Others recommendation for a fixed 2.5 or one starting that power or greater sounds good to me.
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I scope my Marlin 336 with an old weaver K2.5 with heavy post reticle. Your Leupold is also a great choice; I would just go for a heavy "german" reticle if possible, if you will be in the thick stuff.
I'd certainly scope an angle-eject 94, but not a top-eject; I've tried side-mount scopes on older 94's and they are great for load development and accuracy testing, but awkward to line up.
As I recall, all 7-30 Waters rifles were angle eject models so it's a no-brainer for me.
I'd certainly scope an angle-eject 94, but not a top-eject; I've tried side-mount scopes on older 94's and they are great for load development and accuracy testing, but awkward to line up.
As I recall, all 7-30 Waters rifles were angle eject models so it's a no-brainer for me.
My eyes are still good enough that I can run Skinner sights on mine - but I know that with astigmatism I'll need to switch over eventually.
I think that the best possible telescope to put onto a lever action - especially a 94 - is a fixed power scout scope. You can put if far forward of the action, it won't add as much weight as a big "zoomy" scope, and you can mount it LOW over the barrel. With a 2.5X Leupold FX-II or a fixed power Burris, even with older eyes you will be able to get quality hits out to 200 yards without issues.
Keeping the scope so close to the bore will avoid wrecking the amazing handling characteristics of the 94.
I think that the best possible telescope to put onto a lever action - especially a 94 - is a fixed power scout scope. You can put if far forward of the action, it won't add as much weight as a big "zoomy" scope, and you can mount it LOW over the barrel. With a 2.5X Leupold FX-II or a fixed power Burris, even with older eyes you will be able to get quality hits out to 200 yards without issues.
Keeping the scope so close to the bore will avoid wrecking the amazing handling characteristics of the 94.
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I still see these mounts at gunshows on the odd occasion...they were the best optic mounting system ever produced for the win/94 in my opinion. Place a WTB ad and if you were lucky enough to get the mount substitute that old M8 IER in the picture for a current model and you're golden.
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I still see these mounts at gunshows on the odd occasion...they were the best optic mounting system ever produced for the win/94 in my opinion. Place a WTB ad and if you were lucky enough to get the mount substitute that old M8 IER in the picture for a current model and you're golden.
Those require drilling at tapping a hole in the barrel, iirc. Why go that route when the receiver is already drilled and tapped, and bases are commonly available?
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Angle eject vs top eject
If your lever gun usage is more along the line of "rifleman" type shooter disregard the following...if controlled, accurate fire from a top eject rifle, read on.
I have scoped both types and everyone here is right, if you want to cleanly eject empties then AE is the only one you will ever be satisfied using...however...I will use a top eject with a scope on it every time if a poorly aimed shot is the alternative. the fact is, that top eject rifles will still eject the round if you have a full sized scope over the bolt...the case will come out of the chamber, slide back until it clears the chamber throat and then come up under the scope enough to disengage from the extractor hooks... it is now loose and lays in the top opening, now a simple slight roll of the rifle before chambering the next round will remove it from the gun...one well aimed round is worth 20 quick poorly aimed rounds in my book.
Most of the Winchester levers that I have scoped are all "turn of the century" (1886, a couple 1894's and a couple 92's) guns manufactured long before AE was a thing.
There is another "work-around" for top eject rifles that improve their "shootability" for eyesight challenged shooters that removes any issues with top eject, and that is to mount the much shorter Red Dot's or similar bodies sighting devises. They will very comfortably mount far enough back over the hammer that ejection happens long before the round gets to it. Thumb manipulation of the hammer is restricted a bit but still completely doable.
Again...one good shot with any rifle is more desirable that 20 blurred shots any day.
If your lever gun usage is more along the line of "rifleman" type shooter disregard the following...if controlled, accurate fire from a top eject rifle, read on.
I have scoped both types and everyone here is right, if you want to cleanly eject empties then AE is the only one you will ever be satisfied using...however...I will use a top eject with a scope on it every time if a poorly aimed shot is the alternative. the fact is, that top eject rifles will still eject the round if you have a full sized scope over the bolt...the case will come out of the chamber, slide back until it clears the chamber throat and then come up under the scope enough to disengage from the extractor hooks... it is now loose and lays in the top opening, now a simple slight roll of the rifle before chambering the next round will remove it from the gun...one well aimed round is worth 20 quick poorly aimed rounds in my book.
Most of the Winchester levers that I have scoped are all "turn of the century" (1886, a couple 1894's and a couple 92's) guns manufactured long before AE was a thing.
There is another "work-around" for top eject rifles that improve their "shootability" for eyesight challenged shooters that removes any issues with top eject, and that is to mount the much shorter Red Dot's or similar bodies sighting devises. They will very comfortably mount far enough back over the hammer that ejection happens long before the round gets to it. Thumb manipulation of the hammer is restricted a bit but still completely doable.
Again...one good shot with any rifle is more desirable that 20 blurred shots any day.
