I'll be darned...dyna bore coat

legi0n said:
but still, on the extremeguncare dot com it says


it also says

the only thing that cleans-up leading is a stiff bronze brush or some of those copper/brass mesh patches
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Just to clarify, that is NOT the official website of Dyna-Tek Coatings. If you want to go straight to the source, try this: www. burningbushtech.com/products/firearms/

I presume that Extreme Gun Care is a US distributor of Dyna-Tek.

I have regular conversations with Doug, the owner and inventor of DBC and Dyna-Tek coatings. When he originally made the comment about no bronze brushes, if was when the product was relatively new, and he didn't know what the effect would be of using a bronze brush on the coating, so he said to use nylon instead, just to be safe. I have heard him say, straight from his mouth, that he has found that DBC is not harmed by a bronze brush, but there is no need to use one. From the Dyna-Tek website: "After shooting your newly coated firearm, clean the bore with solvent and patches only. You will notice you will not have to clean as often. If you feel you must use a brush, we recommend a nylon brush. The first time you clean you may see some minor copper, but this will become less as you shoot and clean over time"

Note that he doesn't say that you shouldn't use a bronze brush.

You will likely find that cleaning up leading no longer requires a bronze brush after applying DBC. Being a ceramic-based compound, it fills in the pores and tiny flaws in the steel, and becomes polished and cured with the shooting of bullets. This leaves a more slick surface in the bore, which makes it difficult for fouling of any kind to stick to the steel. It also makes it easier to wipe any residual fouling off the steel, which is why a brush is not required. Think of trying to wipe used automotive oil off of porous concrete, versus wiping it off of your ceramic kitchen floor. The oil comes off of one surface much easier than the other.
 
Arctic,

It works wonderfully in that application. Just to give you an idea- Knight Rifles uses DBC and DGS as OEM coatings on all the muzzleloaders that leave their facility ;)

Edited to add: There are also lots of guys running DBC in cap-lock and flint-lock ML's shooting round balls and conicals, with great results.
 
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It reduces fouling of all sorts, due to the slick ceramic surface on the bore. Lead, copper, powder, and plastic (wad) fouling is reduced and is easier to clean out of the bore. See my comment above about the product working better in some bores than others ;) I haven't used DBC in an application where leading is an issue, myself, but Dyna-Tek and other individual users report that it works very well to reduce leading.
 
I just heard back from the owner of Dyna-Tek. I haven't used the product with corrosive ammo, myself, but he said that it'll resist the effects of corrosive ammo, but the coating is still susceptible to strong acid attack. He suggests cleaning within a week of firing corrosive ammo.
 
Jordan Smith said:
I just heard back from the owner of Dyna-Tek. I haven't used the product with corrosive ammo, myself, but he said that it'll resist the effects of corrosive ammo, but the coating is still susceptible to strong acid attack. He suggests cleaning within a week of firing corrosive ammo.
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Now that's interesting!!!
 
Yes, and no.

All my new rifles get DBC before a single bullet goes down the bore, and they still seem to "break in" just fine. Fouling is certainly reduced. My most recent factory barrel had DBC applied before firing the gun, and it does quite well. It usually shoots like this:

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And this. This was the first load I tried with the 80gr TTSX, and the first group fired with the load:

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When groups started opening up to this and a bit larger:

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I remembered that I hadn't cleaned the bore in about 350 rounds (since applying DBC when the barrel was new). I left a shot of WO in the bore overnight, pushed it out with 1 patch the next morning, and the rifle went back to doing this:

722 yards, the plate is 8" across. 5 shots in the top middle of the plate (the 2 on the bottom right of the plate are from a different rifle):

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I have other barrels that shoot similarly after having applied DBC when new.

The moral of the story is: Your barrel will still "break in" and shoot just fine after applying DBC, whether you believe in barrel break-in or not, and fouling will be noticeably reduced compared to barrels that are not coated. IME, it is rare to get a barrel that is not improved by DBC (speaking about fouling).
 
legi0n said:
but still, on the extremeguncare dot com it says


it also says

the only thing that cleans-up leading is a stiff bronze brush or some of those copper/brass mesh patches
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For goodness sakes "the sky is falling, the sky is falling...."
This stuff might just work. Lots of credible people say it works great, so try it or move along.
 
rem338win said:
For goodness sakes "the sky is falling, the sky is falling...."
This stuff might just work. Lots of credible people say it works great, so try it or move along.
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Some people prefer to ask first to avoid complaining later.
Which is how it should be.
Only mindless sheeple burn themselves with coffee and next sue 'cause "they haven't been told it's hot".
 
legi0n said:
but still, on the extremeguncare dot com it says


it also says

the only thing that cleans-up leading is a stiff bronze brush or some of those copper/brass mesh patches
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legi0n said:
Some people prefer to ask first to avoid complaining later.
Which is how it should be.
Only mindless sheeple burn themselves with coffee and next sue 'cause "they haven't been told it's hot".
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Sure thing. And some people do prefer reading comprehension. And if they are interested they ask questions without presuppositions against it. Which doesn't sound like complaining before you try it. Que.....
 
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