Illegal to obstruct lawful hunters

[Fall Guy]

Officer I have a gun if I feel threatened I will use it to defend myself!............ See how quickly they come running then.

Kind of like questioning, "Are you suggesting that I resolve this matter myself?".

 

[Deerdr]

I'm the Landowner The Spank described and OPP and MNR refused to interfere because it was TRADITIONAL Hunting

 

[homslice]

Here is a good one for you. What do you do when you own land and have not given permission to hunt the land and a Native decides to hunt on it in spring for geese and though you have gone out and asked him to leave your property, that he is trespassing he does not and tells you to F/O. Then you return to your home, call the MNR and Police and are told by both that neither will be responding to the call owing to the fact the person is native and it may cause a real issue? Happened to a buddy of mine and he is an retired OPP! He could not get anything done about it and it went on for weeks. The guy even had the nerve to use the gated road my buddy has on the property by accessing it from the other end where it joins a neighbouring property, parking his truck, cutting down my buddies trees and Hazel bushes to build a blind and using his deer food crop to hunt on where the geese were feeding. What is your recourse of action then?

Post a sign that say's unauthorized vehicles will be towed and then follow through with it.

 

[Deerdr]

I'm the Landowner The Spank described and OPP and MNR refused to interfere because it was TRADITIONAL Hunting

 

[ontario]

Here is a good one for you. What do you do when you own land and have not given permission to hunt the land and a Native decides to hunt on it in spring for geese and though you have gone out and asked him to leave your property, that he is trespassing he does not and tells you to F/O. Then you return to your home, call the MNR and Police and are told by both that neither will be responding to the call owing to the fact the person is native and it may cause a real issue? Happened to a buddy of mine and he is an retired OPP! He could not get anything done about it and it went on for weeks. The guy even had the nerve to use the gated road my buddy has on the property by accessing it from the other end where it joins a neighbouring property, parking his truck, cutting down my buddies trees and Hazel bushes to build a blind and using his deer food crop to hunt on where the geese were feeding. What is your recourse of action then?

I have heard a nice round bale spear inserted into the rad of a trespassers vehicle does wonders to stop repeat offenders.

 

[dand883]

I have heard a nice round bale spear inserted into the rad of a trespassers vehicle does wonders to stop repeat offenders.

Makes me think of a story one of my professors in school told me. They were setting grade stakes for a new road going in and every night they would come back and all of their stakes were driven over and smashed up. So after a few nights of this happening he balanced a big rock on top of every 4th or 5th stake and he drove a couple of pieces of rebar on a 45 degree angle behind a couple.
Need less to say after that night no more of the stakes got run over

 

[firemachine69]

Makes me think of a story one of my professors in school told me. They were setting grade stakes for a new road going in and every night they would come back and all of their stakes were driven over and smashed up. So after a few nights of this happening he balanced a big rock on top of every 4th or 5th stake and he drove a couple of pieces of rebar on a 45 degree angle behind a couple.
Need less to say after that night no more of the stakes got run over

+1

These self-entitled s need to be dealt with fire. Slashed tires and windows come to mind... Though I myself would never do that...

 

[c-fbmi]

It always helps to have some First Nations friends to explain the flaw in their thinking to those First Nations persons doing the tresspassing and unlawful hunting. They seem to have a way of addressing these flaws with the same imunity!!!

 

[Biggunners]

I'm the Landowner The Spank described and OPP and MNR refused to interfere because it was TRADITIONAL Hunting

What is your recourse of action then?

 

[blasted_saber]

Does the same go for crown land?!
That was a good read! Glad to know we still have some rights, even with so many antis out there!

Its illegal anywhere in Ontario. Crown or private.

 

[Found]

I'm the Landowner The Spank described and OPP and MNR refused to interfere because it was TRADITIONAL Hunting

Well I would document the interaction with the authorities and pursue it up the ladder, maybe involve the newspapers. Around this part of Ontario if someone is hunting on your property the authorities will do something whether the person is native or not and even if they claim they are hunting traditionally. This is from experience from my property and others in the area. Being native does not give you the right to trespass and start hunting or fishing on someone else’s property. What’s next, they set up camp on your property so they can fish and hunt?

 

[waltman]

Officer I have a gun if I feel threatened I will use it to defend myself!............ See how quickly they come running then.

Do this, and let them know you are going to remove the man yourself right now.

 

[the spank]

The landowner can lawfully arrest him and hold him till the police arrive under the Trespass to Property Act:

Arrest without warrant on premises

9.(1) A police officer, or the occupier of premises, or a person authorized by the occupier may arrest without warrant any person he or she believes on reasonable and probable grounds to be on the premises in contravention of section 2. R.S.O. 1990, c T.21, s(1).

Delivery to police officer
(2)Where the person who makes an arrest under subsection (1) is not a police officer, he or she shall promptly call for the assistance of a police officer and give the person arrested into the custody of the police officer. R.S.O. 1990,c. T.21, s(2).

Deemed arrest
(3):A police officer to whom the custody of a person is given under subsection (2) shall be deemed to have arrested the person for the purposes of the provisions of the Provincial Offences Act applying to his or her release or continued detention and bail. R.S.O. 1990, c.T.21, s.9

Problem is the OPP and Local Police were both called an none would come out to investigate because the person was Native and they did not want to deal with a Native based issue!

 

[CreamySmooth]

Saskatchewan it matters. Native or no native, you need permission for posted land.

Overall I'd say move west anyway. Better hunting.

 

[brybenn]

Lol I know those guys. Good to see the mnr actually laying a charge

 

[Chas]

Problem is the OPP and Local Police were both called an none would come out to investigate because the person was Native and they did not want to deal with a Native based issue!

Might be a different response when the police are told you have someone under arrest and that by law you have to deliver them to the custody of a police officer.

Despite their reluctance, there is a Supreme Court of Canada case law decision that upholds private property rights over aboriginal rights - Regina v. Badger.

Keep going up the command chain of the police services involved.

 

[crazydave]

Problem is the OPP and Local Police were both called an none would come out to investigate because the person was Native and they did not want to deal with a Native based issue!

Tell him to get a couple goats or sheep and post a livestock dog on duty sign, Any of the large livestock guardian dogs seem to have a tendency to get irate with tresspassers.

A large pyreneese or anatolian will keep out the tresspasser, if he hurts the dog he would be liable to be charged for destruction of property, also he gets a good companion while working his property.

 

[canadian hunter312]

I have had a few "leave" their ATV's on my property due to their unwillingness to obey the No Trespassing signs. I pull them home, dismantle them and sell all the parts on ebay or if the have the balls to come back and get them before i dismantle them, I charge them a "finders" fee and give them a warning. If it ever happens again.... charges are laid.

After having numerous game cameras, stands and even mineral blocks stolen, i have no problem laying charges now. I have chained, lag bolted and even have used python locks to secure my stuff and it still goes missing. No more Mr. Nice Guy!

you're trying to tell me that you confiscate ATV's, take them to your own little chop shop, and then sell the parts? on top of this, when you call the police to lay charges they're okay with you selling the property people "left" behind. what do you do, put a gun to their head?

sorry, but i gotta call BS on that one.

 

[tjsudbury]

Problem is the OPP and Local Police were both called an none would come out to investigate because the person was Native and they did not want to deal with a Native based issue!

It's called cowardice

 

[BigWil]

Why did you tell them the person was Native? Just call it in as someone trespassing with firearms, they should show up. If they ask why you didn't tell them that he is native, tell them you weren't aware, and that it's not relevant on private property.