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What are your reloads costing you? Looking at the grains of powder used in 9mm and then in 45 I am thinking pretty damn near to nothing. My .223 loads for 18-19 cents a round and uses four to five times as much powder.

kastles
 
About 13 cents/round for 9mm and just over 14 cents/round for .45 using Cactus Plains cast bullets and Titegroup powder.
 
Cut up your cousins wood shoes for bullets, knock the dent out of your primers and reload them, buy your powder on sale, and scrounge your brass at the range, can't think of a happier Dutchman on the range, able to brag about owning the cheapest ammo on the planet. Who cares how they shoot it's all about costs. My grandfather would have been twice as rich if he spent his time working rather than figuring out how to save, grandma spent a hundred hours knitting sweaters with recycled yarn, they were new but looked recycled, lasted forever as they never got worn, she figured she was being Thrifty as the clothes she gave away never wore out, in fact never wore period. Do yourself a favor and buy good ammo once in a while just to experience the joy of a straight shooting gun. Yes I have Dutch blood and get the mindset. Some reloads cost more than good ammo, but then again have good ingredients, and others are cheap and used for plinking.
 
I started reloading mostly because of the accuracy I could attain in my rifles. My hunting loads are premiums with tight groups but cost the same as the low to medium factory rounds(though once I had my loads figured I don't end up shooting those rounds again except to check zero or kill something). This is where I'll be with handguns, thought not buying the premium bullets but something that my gun like to send downrange.

And hell yes I scrounge spent casings off the ground, buy stuff on sale, and find joy in knowing I saved money every time I pull that trigger(regardless of the fact that the money I saved likely goes back into shooting or hunting). And if I had wooden shoes there is no way I'd chop them up ;)
 
I pick a likely commercial cast bullet and a good powder and then try a series of laods in 0.3 gr increments. One of them will give better groups than the other loads. This optomises the pistol performance. Does not matter that the handloads are cheaper.

here is a cheap Norinco. 6.0 gr IMR7625 under a DRG 200gr SWC.

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Once you find a load that works, and have the tools and brass, reloading either 9mm or 45 auto is the only practical solution. You won't really save money but you will shoot 2 to 3 times more (easily)
 
dizzy said:
Cut up your cousins wood shoes for bullets, knock the dent out of your primers and reload them, buy your powder on sale, and scrounge your brass at the range, can't think of a happier Dutchman on the range, able to brag about owning the cheapest ammo on the planet. Who cares how they shoot it's all about costs. My grandfather would have been twice as rich if he spent his time working rather than figuring out how to save, grandma spent a hundred hours knitting sweaters with recycled yarn, they were new but looked recycled, lasted forever as they never got worn, she figured she was being Thrifty as the clothes she gave away never wore out, in fact never wore period. Do yourself a favor and buy good ammo once in a while just to experience the joy of a straight shooting gun. Yes I have Dutch blood and get the mindset. Some reloads cost more than good ammo, but then again have good ingredients, and others are cheap and used for plinking.
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He said he was Dutch, not Scottish!:p (Which I am partly)

I'm working my way into reloading for those 3 calibers too and the costs per round are looking good to me. I know that after buying equipment, components and time it usually is a wash, cost wise, but I can justify investing in equipment whereas blowing it on factory loaded ammo irks me.
 
dizzy said:
Cut up your cousins wood shoes for bullets, knock the dent out of your primers and reload them, buy your powder on sale, and scrounge your brass at the range, can't think of a happier Dutchman on the range, able to brag about owning the cheapest ammo on the planet. Who cares how they shoot it's all about costs. My grandfather would have been twice as rich if he spent his time working rather than figuring out how to save, grandma spent a hundred hours knitting sweaters with recycled yarn, they were new but looked recycled, lasted forever as they never got worn, she figured she was being Thrifty as the clothes she gave away never wore out, in fact never wore period. Do yourself a favor and buy good ammo once in a while just to experience the joy of a straight shooting gun. Yes I have Dutch blood and get the mindset. Some reloads cost more than good ammo, but then again have good ingredients, and others are cheap and used for plinking.
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You can reload better ammo than you can buy. Nothing wrong with looking to save some $$ and get more bang for your buck, either.

Seems like you have some personal issues that don't have much to do with reloading. As for your grandparents maybe they lived through some lean times that probably influeneced how they thought. Most people who survived the great depression lived close to the edge in financial terms and it affected them deeply for the rest of their lives.

My grandfather (Swedish) used to jokingly tell his stubborn dutch friend - "wooden shoes, wooden head, wooden listen". ;)
 
jethunter said:
You can reload better ammo than you can buy. Nothing wrong with looking to save some $$ and get more bang for your buck, either.

Seems like you have some personal issues that don't have much to do with reloading. As for your grandparents maybe they lived through some lean times that probably influeneced how they thought. Most people who survived the great depression lived close to the edge in financial terms and it affected them deeply for the rest of their lives.

My grandfather (Swedish) used to jokingly tell his stubborn dutch friend - "wooden shoes, wooden head, wooden listen". ;)
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Reminds me of a story I heard from an old Englishman, now long dead. When he was young, say early 1950s, he worked for a company owned by a very old man. At the close of business each day, the owner would go around the entire office checking to make sure each light had been turned off. My English friend thought him the tightest man he had ever met as he was quite wealthy by this time. I suggested that he might have been old enough to have grown up with gas lighting; leaving that unattended could result in loss of the building and he might never have lost that fear. Of course I have no idea when England stopped using gas lights.
 
jethunter said:
You can reload better ammo than you can buy. Nothing wrong with looking to save some $$ and get more bang for your buck, either.

Seems like you have some personal issues that don't have much to do with reloading. As for your grandparents maybe they lived through some lean times that probably influeneced how they thought. Most people who survived the great depression lived close to the edge in financial terms and it affected them deeply for the rest of their lives.

My grandfather (Swedish) used to jokingly tell his stubborn dutch friend - "wooden shoes, wooden head, wooden listen". ;)
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Dude, all in Jest, you don't get any more dutch than me, and I too reload. Nothing against the Dutch, nothing at all. Sorry if the jest didn't come out.

I reload too, for me its about obtaining what factory ammo can't so far with setup costs there has been no savings.
 
dan belisle said:
Definition of a Dutchman (from my Dutch buddy, but I can verify the accuracy courtesy of my Dutch stepdad); "someone who can buy from a Scot and sell to a Jew and turn a profit". Lol, it's not about the cheap, really. - dan
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Well, I hear your definition....I'm just plain cheap.

My cost is 6 cents per reload of 9mm using Universal and home cast 125 grain bullets from Wheelweights (50 cents per pound). That's $3.00 per 50 round box.

And 7 cents per .45 acp, 230 grains RN or TC cast from WW, comes to $3.50 per 50 round box.
 
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