I'm getting sick of the 1000 yard goal
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If a person is motivated, has some decent equipment, repeatable optics, a considerable shooting budget, good and tuned loads, a place to shoot that far, good technique, some knowledge of wind or a coach who does, making 1000 yard shots isn't very hard. I'm fully aware that that little shopping list eliminates most of the shooting population, but it isn't rocket surgery. It does take a bit of a commitment to get there by yourself.
We frequently make a game out of it, by gift-wrapping all the above criteria and presenting it to people on a platter. I can prop novice shooters, and in some cases non-shooters behind a good rig and have them landing 1/2 mile hits in a few minutes. The main consideration is that they have to listen. They may not know anything when they're done, but they will know what a hit on a gong on the next quarter section over sounds like.
We frequently make a game out of it, by gift-wrapping all the above criteria and presenting it to people on a platter. I can prop novice shooters, and in some cases non-shooters behind a good rig and have them landing 1/2 mile hits in a few minutes. The main consideration is that they have to listen. They may not know anything when they're done, but they will know what a hit on a gong on the next quarter section over sounds like.
This was 2 days ago. Shooting at 1000m. Target is 30"x16" . Gotta watch the wind as you can see the target stand got some ventilation, was blowing pretty good. Needed 9.8 mils elevation to get on with the 185 Jug at 2725fps. There were misses for sure but getting better at trying to read the conditions at that distance.
At first the visibility was okay but it got better but more windy.
At first the visibility was okay but it got better but more windy.
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If a person is motivated, has some decent equipment, repeatable optics, a considerable shooting budget, good and tuned loads, a place to shoot that far, good technique, some knowledge of wind or a coach who does, making 1000 yard shots isn't very hard. I'm fully aware that that little shopping list eliminates most of the shooting population, but it isn't rocket surgery. It does take a bit of a commitment to get there by yourself.
We frequently make a game out of it, by gift-wrapping all the above criteria and presenting it to people on a platter. I can prop novice shooters, and in some cases non-shooters behind a good rig and have them landing 1/2 mile hits in a few minutes. The main consideration is that they have to listen. They may not know anything when they're done, but they will know what a hit on a gong on the next quarter section over sounds like.
thats is exactly what it takes last your took my oldest son of 29 out to introduce him to the art of long range he has been hunting 5 years now he shoots a 338 win mag, it had a low power scope told him to start to be able to shoot out to plus 2000 yards you need glass! he could not afford the nightforce I suggested so he got a Vortex hst in 4-16 x 50? if think short story is after my load development and range time with his gun we went to the range adjusted changes is scope for his eye and off we when. got out in the bush set up the labradar and picked out a rock that ranged to be 782 yards got him set up pointing at the target to fire a round to confirm speed, once i had that put the info into my ballistic app and gave him the amount of moa to dial up. First shot 16" low and right long story after a few more down the pipe he hit that ROCK and could not believe that it could be done!
We frequently make a game out of it, by gift-wrapping all the above criteria and presenting it to people on a platter. I can prop novice shooters, and in some cases non-shooters behind a good rig and have them landing 1/2 mile hits in a few minutes. The main consideration is that they have to listen. They may not know anything when they're done, but they will know what a hit on a gong on the next quarter section over sounds like.
thats is exactly what it takes last your took my oldest son of 29 out to introduce him to the art of long range he has been hunting 5 years now he shoots a 338 win mag, it had a low power scope told him to start to be able to shoot out to plus 2000 yards you need glass! he could not afford the nightforce I suggested so he got a Vortex hst in 4-16 x 50? if think short story is after my load development and range time with his gun we went to the range adjusted changes is scope for his eye and off we when. got out in the bush set up the labradar and picked out a rock that ranged to be 782 yards got him set up pointing at the target to fire a round to confirm speed, once i had that put the info into my ballistic app and gave him the amount of moa to dial up. First shot 16" low and right long story after a few more down the pipe he hit that ROCK and could not believe that it could be done!
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- Richmond, BC
I'm struggling to see the point of this thread.
So what if someone's goal is to reach out to 1,000 yards?
That's like saying it pisses me off that people want to be fighter pilots just because I don't have the ability to.
So what if someone's goal is to reach out to 1,000 yards?
That's like saying it pisses me off that people want to be fighter pilots just because I don't have the ability to.
I can sit down and smack a collagen jug with my 308 savage and 4x12 optic at 100-800 yards usually first shot.
You need a 1 MOA gun to hit 10" group at 1000 yards (in a perfect world) A lot of guys cant put together groups like that constantly. A lot can, its not a huge deal... Honestly, anyone can with a decent 1 moa gun and a good spotter... Now to slap it consistently. Solo with no spotter... That is hard.
I've yet to personally own something that I'm comfortable taking out to 1km, but my taste for it probably started when a friend was kind enough to let me try his 'new' (to him) PGW .300Win Mag. With rudimentary wind-doping (the only kind I'm capable of) I was able to put a few holes out of 10, eventually, onto an IPSC target at 1000m. I know many can do much better, though I was impressed considering we were using commercial Remington Core-Lokt hunting ammo. Very little wind to contend with.
By the next time we got together, he'd tuned up some decent match-loads with some 190gr HPBTs for the rifle, which after adjusting after the first 2 shots, printed the remaining 8 on target. Also easy winds.
I'm no LR champ. That rifle shot like a dream.
My next taste was on a course where 2/6 of the students had never fired beyond more than a few hundred metres before.
By the end we were all making decent hits at 1000m, & by decent I mean after we all hit the 4×4', we went on to the 2×2' & most of us to the 1×1'.
In my case most of any credit had to go to the instructor, & the loaner rifle he spotted me. It was an old M70 he built up with I believe a MacLennan(sp?) barrel. What holds me back from spending much more time at 1km is the $ for the tools, the places I can reach that far without driving a 1/2 day or more, & better skills judging wind than I have now.
By the next time we got together, he'd tuned up some decent match-loads with some 190gr HPBTs for the rifle, which after adjusting after the first 2 shots, printed the remaining 8 on target. Also easy winds.
I'm no LR champ. That rifle shot like a dream.
My next taste was on a course where 2/6 of the students had never fired beyond more than a few hundred metres before.
By the end we were all making decent hits at 1000m, & by decent I mean after we all hit the 4×4', we went on to the 2×2' & most of us to the 1×1'.
In my case most of any credit had to go to the instructor, & the loaner rifle he spotted me. It was an old M70 he built up with I believe a MacLennan(sp?) barrel. What holds me back from spending much more time at 1km is the $ for the tools, the places I can reach that far without driving a 1/2 day or more, & better skills judging wind than I have now.
the way i interpret his post
1,000 is the new 100... everyone claims to be able to consistently hit their target at 1000. It is far further away and hard then the general shooting community understand.
When i tell people i compete at 1,000 yards they go oh but when I give them a frame of reference and tell them that it is 10 football fields long they go OH that is far.
All the best
Trevor
P.S.
1,760 (a mile) is the new 1,000
1,000 is the new 100... everyone claims to be able to consistently hit their target at 1000. It is far further away and hard then the general shooting community understand.
When i tell people i compete at 1,000 yards they go oh but when I give them a frame of reference and tell them that it is 10 football fields long they go OH that is far.
All the best
Trevor
P.S.
1,760 (a mile) is the new 1,000
My first real crack at purposeful long range shooting was through a friend's "generosity". I'd been sort of following his progress from idea to build, load developement through drop chart confirmation, and a series of rangefinders that couldn't cut it. Therefore I didn't think it was much credit to myself when I was able to jump into a snowbank and crank 300 grain SMKs into a rock 927 yards away with 6,5 MOA of left wind.While I was aware that there was a lot of work involved in getting that far, none of it was mine. It wasn't long after that that I was building a string of rifles and even bought the land to make my own shooting range. I'll get even with him if its the last thing I do. 
You can lead a thirsty horse to water and he'll probably drink it. You can lead a enthusiastic shooter to the 1000 yard line with gear and advice and he'll probably be hitting things in short order. It isn't that hard once the obstacles are removed.
Try that trick with a piano. You'll find out what hard is.
You can lead a thirsty horse to water and he'll probably drink it. You can lead a enthusiastic shooter to the 1000 yard line with gear and advice and he'll probably be hitting things in short order. It isn't that hard once the obstacles are removed.
Try that trick with a piano. You'll find out what hard is.
Back in the day I hosted 1 mile target shoot's. There are 58 people in tigrr's 1 mile target shooting club. We all start somewhere. In 2 years I went from 200 yards to a mile with just upgrades in equipment. I have 3 rifles that have hit targets at a mile. 2 in 308 and 1 in 6.5-284. My 338 LM is up to 1500 yds so far. I want to stretch the 338 out to 3000 meters, and to be the first of my shooting buddies to do so.
I thought you came in 18th.
That or google, pre made ballistic charts are a helpful starting spot.
Also a good spotter/experienced shooter can get you on target really fast... (if you are able to do you're part)
Mystic Precision
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- Summerland, BC
I too have concerns about the trend for LR shooting systems you can buy for outrageous amounts of money... "1000yds capable out of the box" one brand suggests... Yeah right.
Maybe the system is capable... but is the new owner?
As a LR competitor and enthusiasts, I have done all the work to build up the rifle, ammo and skills to hit at 1000yds and beyond. It didn't happen over night but it also didn't need the latest greatest Gucci Gear.
Most of my starting gear was very humble and really inexpensive, but they shot consistently and accurately enough for learn from.
For those that actually WANT to learn and develop skills to be capable 1000yds shooters, achieving that goal today has never been easier BUT it is not "out of the box" for the vast majority of shooters. And it isn't going to happen in the first box of "match ammo"
I get to help a number of shooters each year who want to get into the "1000yds game".. my first suggestion is learn how to shoot at SR.
When they can reliably and consistently shoot MOA or better at 200 and 300yds, day in day out, reaching out further is merely adding more elevation and windage to the shot.
Buying gear does not buy shooting skill. If you have solid basic riflery skills, adding proper gear and info to reach out is easy. For someone who can't hit the broad side of the barn from inside the barn, more bling isn't going to change the lack of result.
So for those that want to get out to 1000yds (or whatever distance), put in the effort and shoot and shoot and shoot so you are proficient at the act of shooting. Distance is not hard as the work has already been done.
YMMV
Jerry
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- Lower Mainland, BC
