Im new to reloading ... Does this sound weird ??

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So i have done a little bit with a family menber. But iv had the idea of plating some casing for handloads on a .244. Maybe nickel or something. Any thoughts or has anyone tried to plate brass at home ? If you have some tips of any knowledge that might help me out that would be great. A .244 nickel plated brass with some noseler ballistic silver tips would be sweet !!!
 
Anyone make a nickel plated 6mm Remington case? Same thing as the .244.

Otherwise,if it's the aesthetics you're after you might just have to be happy trying to get a high polish on regular brass cases.
 
When I was a kid ,about 45 years ago, I had an electro plating kit, it would have done it but I am sure that the chemicals are banned now for home use.
 
Silverback said:
When I was a kid ,about 45 years ago, I had an electro plating kit, it would have done it but I am sure that the chemicals are banned now for home use.
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Well thats kinda where i was heading. Iv seen electro plating on parts before ... Gold,nickel im sure there is others. I figured there must be a few guys around that have done it. Seems like you can buy the machine for $150 or so. And the whole purpose is so when im out with anyone else maybe hunting or what not i dont have to explain why im using i cartrige that isnt for my chamber :/. Just save a bunch of hassle using reloded .244 brass rather than 6mm. Id live to find some plated already 6mm but even epps said good luck. So if i could just plate my own .244 brass that would be perfect ??
 
If you have two calibers that look almost identical (e.g. 270 and 280) it is a good idea to use nickle plated brass in one, so you can reduce the risk of chambering the wrong round.

The 6mm Rem (244) is made from a 7mm case. Remington nickle plates some calibers. All you have to do is find a case they nickle plate and run it through the 6mm sizer.

I know my 280 brass was nickle plated. Al you would have to do is trim it (63mm down to about 57mm) and size it.

Nickle plated 7mm or 8mm brass would be a better parent case.
 
Just an update. I have found a guy bot real local but clise enough. He has kind of an industrail setup. He has told me he can plate in gold, nickel, silver and copper i think it was. He made it sound like its a pretty elaborate process ... And the setup and chelicals does look that way. My guess is you get what you pay for and if you want to have not only good old brass but nice looking, never found again. Im being hopfull and gonna start sorting all my .244 brass soon and get all the case prepping done. Then hopefully he comes through and wants to do a batch ��. In the meantime ill probably just keep the brass i choose for that maybe like 40-60. Ill work out the loads in the mean time too ...
 
This is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever read here on CGN. Why ask for opinions if you are going to ignore them?

BUT .......... If you are intent on wasting your time and money, you might as well get them gold plated while you are at it.
 
Small plating setups are pretty straightforward. I've built one with m'kid for sciency fun. We've had good luck plating with copper, and limited success with zinc and nickel. N'er tried to plate brass cases, but will try next time we're set up.

Some brass I try to keep separated from the rest I've used permanent marker on, and that works just fine.
 
SuperCub said:
This is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever read here on CGN. Why ask for opinions if you are going to ignore them?

BUT .......... If you are intent on wasting your time and money, you might as well get them gold plated while you are at it.
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I agree. I wish I had that kind of time available.
 
CoadyT said:
Just an update. I have found a guy bot real local but clise enough. He has kind of an industrail setup. He has told me he can plate in gold, nickel, silver and copper i think it was. He made it sound like its a pretty elaborate process ... And the setup and chelicals does look that way. My guess is you get what you pay for and if you want to have not only good old brass but nice looking, never found again. Im being hopfull and gonna start sorting all my .244 brass soon and get all the case prepping done. Then hopefully he comes through and wants to do a batch ��. In the meantime ill probably just keep the brass i choose for that maybe like 40-60. Ill work out the loads in the mean time too ...
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How much $$ will it cost to plate the brass?
Plating inside or just outside?
How thick is the finished plating?
 
SuperCub said:
This is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever read here on CGN. Why ask for opinions if you are going to ignore them?

BUT .......... If you are intent on wasting your time and money, you might as well get them gold plated while you are at it.
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THIS! In spades.

Leave the brass alone. Plating it could cause all kinds of problems from sizing to seating primers to getting the round into the chamber. But hey, what do I know, I've only been reloading for 30 years?
 
Did you know that a bullet cast from silver is often the only weapon that is effective against a werewolf, witch, or other monsters?

PS: Don't take the ribbing too personally, just take the good advice and spend your reloading time and money doing more constructive things. :)
 
Hmmm ill not rag on people but if companies produce brass that nickel plated i think its for a reason. And yes i have found out the reason. Its obviously for corrosion protection. And to further more my reasoning. Im planning on getting them loaded for a .244 either myself of familly. Id like to think that if i can oliviate any issues at all even if its just an extraction issue from trying to up my loads to max. When this was started i was unsure and inquiring about the process.

Thanks for your reply about the home kit. That was what my initial thoughts were after seeing a video about some gun parts being plated with a small at home kit but figured doing brass would get to be a little much. But i think iv found a place local that can do it in any metal basially.

So yes i actually thought about doing 20 in gold ����. Just for a keep sake i guess. Look real nice beside a remington 760 .244 ... Probably make some custom shell boxes out of some mahogany while im at it.
 
SuperCub said:
Did you know that a bullet cast from silver is often the only weapon that is effective against a werewolf, witch, or other monsters?

PS: Don't take the ribbing too personally, just take the good advice and spend your reloading time and money doing more constructive things. :)
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Hahah ... It takes all kinds right. Im pretty sure if i can just pay someone to do 4 boxes at a reasonable price that will ve the direction. Ill do the loading part ... But plating at home that many. I think iv leaned it probably to much for me to take on and do it properly.
 
Suputin said:
THIS! In spades.

Leave the brass alone. Plating it could cause all kinds of problems from sizing to seating primers to getting the round into the chamber. But hey, what do I know, I've only been reloading for 30 years?
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See this is acually the type of feedback that will help someone. Its called constructive critisism. Dont just say stupid idea ��. Whats your reasoning. Because you bring up good points. But all of which i have thought about. No saying again im not a even a newbie to reloading. I have zero tools for it but thats not an issue being familly around.

So my thoughts.

Yes the brass will be built up. But i figured full length zizing after plating would take care or the od for chamber fit. Primer pockets. Up they will be tight. And probably too tight for a primer to fit in with it plaed in the pocket but maybe im wrong i think that you could easily take the finsh off back down to brass and get a good fit. And again im no meturgist but i do know more that the average person is this feild. and being that the temps of the plating process would get high enough to change to molecular structure of the brass. It shouldnt weaken it. But buy adding mor metal would increas its stregth therfore proctecting my chamber greater ... Increasing the load pressures. And being a tougher casing ... possibly !!! Improve accuracy.

So i might be way off. But hey thats my thoughts and just looking for knowledge advice and facts. P
 
jethunter said:
How much $$ will it cost to plate the brass?
Plating inside or just outside?
How thick is the finished plating?
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Its inside and out ... Not sure what winchester does with thers. My guess would be a copper wire brush in in the neck. Hes confident he can do it in nickel or gold but said he want to see them before pricing. Gold or nickel is available tho. Now just to get some more info on what maybe winchester does with thier nickel brass. Anyone seen the inside neck of one maybe the primer pocket ... Knows whether they have lated the inside ? And if anyone has used a micrometer on the casings between one plated and one brass from the same manufature like winchester 30-06 ballistic silver tip to super x just to see what the differences are if any. Im guessing the nickel is so thin ... Cus the plater said base metal can show through depending on the metal. Thats thin !!!
 
DANGER DANGER DANGER!!!!

Just an FYI during the process if the inside case dimensions should be altered or varied between each individual case it will lead to dangerous pressure spikes.
 
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