I'm sure another beat to death Ontario transfer question

I know they ask you what range I belong to every time I buy a restricted, always been a member so not sure what would happen if I said i wasn't a member.
 
HChammer said:
Has anyone been denied because of not having a range membership even though it's not required in Ontario?
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I picked up 2 restricteds before getting my membership . First one I wasn't asked what club I was planning to join but on the second I was and that was it
 
You do not have to be a member of a club to buy a restricted firearm in Ontario. However, I believe, a club membership is required to qualify for an ATT which is electronically attached to your license (no more ATT card to carry with you). This is one of several criteria into an ATT endorsement together with a valid possession of Restricted and Prohibited firearms. In our club, before we allow a new member/new shooter (not a member of another club) to bring his firearm to the range, he has to complete the probationary period before we confirm his full-time membership and endorsed to CFO for formal ATT consideration. Here is the catch, we might be interpreting the regulation incorrectly. Therefore, do not take my opinion as a legal argument as policy changes without prior publication to the firearms community. When in doubt, do the right thing. Call your CFO. No harm asking.

Meroh said:
No, it is not a requirement in Ontario; nor is club membership for an ATT.
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tiriaq said:
Have you been denied?
Has someone you know been denied?
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ambishooter said:
You do not have to be a member of a club to buy a restricted firearm in Ontario. However, I believe, a club membership is required to qualify for an ATT which is electronically attached to your license (no more ATT card to carry with you). This is one of several criteria into an ATT endorsement together with a valid possession of Restricted and Prohibited firearms. In our club, before we allow a new member/new shooter (not a member of another club) to bring his firearm to the range, he has to complete the probationary period before we confirm his full-time membership and endorsed to CFO for formal ATT consideration. Here is the catch, we might be interpreting the regulation incorrectly. Therefore, do not take my opinion as a legal argument as policy changes without prior publication to the firearms community. When in doubt, do the right thing. Call your CFO. No harm asking.
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Your experience with ATTs is consistent with the Pre C42 practice where clubs would apply for your ATT on your behalf en masse, and new members were often made to jump through hoops before the club would endorse their ATT application. This kind of nonsense is precisely why C42 and automatically issued ATTs were pushed for. Club executives with over stated senses of importance, relying on contrived fears of liability would often hold ATTs hostage. Alternative, many clubs run on a volunteer basis had a hard time finding volunteers who could chew through the mountain of hundreds of ATT applications in a timely manner come renewal time, and were happy to be free of the burden.

Post C42 there is still no requirement to be a member to have an RPAL, acquire a Restricted firearm, OR be issued an ATT, either on a short term basis, a long term basis, or as a condition of a license. Current practice for CFO in Ontario to issue ATT as license conditions immediately upon the first transfer of a restricted firearm, renewal of the RPAL, or whenever the license holder calls in and asks for it.

THe CFO will ask what club you are a member at, and record it in your file, but they know that they can not require one. They have been taken to court on this and lost.
 
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