Importing 1890's mfg Type 26 9mm japanese revolver

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Hello everyone,

Contemplating on purchasing and importing a Japanese Type 26 Revolver mfg 1893 "first year of production" and its chambered for 6 rounds of 9mm jap cartridge.

I believe this cartridge is good too go, any other possible issues with importing one of these?.

Any ideas for possible brass and bullet sources.

Thanks in advance.
 
It looks like it was in service from 1893-1945. So would be considered a "modern" firearm and not going to be exempt as an antique. It would have to be registered, etc... for legal importation.
 
ShooterPHD said:
It looks like it was in service from 1893-1945. So would be considered a "modern" firearm and not going to be exempt as an antique. It would have to be registered, etc... for legal importation.
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It looks like you don't know the rules...


If this gun is pre 1898 it is an antique. Plain and simple.

I don't have a source for brass. You might be able to make it from .38 spl???
 
If it was made in 1893 it will be fine, as long as 9mm Jap isn't a Japanese definition for a cartridge on the no-go list.

in service from 1893-1945. So would be considered a "modern" firearm and not going to be exempt as an antique.
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Being "modern" or not does not define what is an antique.
 
Or this...
"you can use flush seated 38 spl wad cutters with scotch tape wrapped around them in an emergency! cases will still hold but I would only use them once, beats the hell out of trying to find real ammo for it, in case you just wanted to try it out!"

Lol
 
gastonglock said:
It looks like you don't know the rules...


If this gun is pre 1898 it is an antique. Plain and simple.

I don't have a sorce for brass. You might be able to make it from .38 spl???
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Pre 1898 is one of the factors, not the only one. If it was made after, or can still fire/chamber current "modern" ammunition it still requires RPAL and ATT for importation.

Its the same reason you cannot import an 1873 Colt single action in .45LC (without proper registration, ATT, RPAL, etc...)
 
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Ummm, no. FYI there is a list of cartridges that are considered "non-antiques"... Yes, .45 colt is on it. No, 9mm jap is not. Ever seen a webley mk1 in .45acp? How about a French 1873??? Or a colt saa in .38spl?
In short go away as your not helping here, just spreading misinformation.
 
"On the other hand, antique firearms are not considered firearms for licensing and registration purposes. Antique firearms include:

any firearms manufactured before 1898 that are not originally designed or redesigned to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition;
long guns manufactured in 1898 or later that are reproductions of flintlock, wheel-lock, or matchlock firearms; and
firearms that are classified as antique by regulations."
 
Its the same reason you cannot import an 1873 Colt single action in .45LC
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But you CAN import one in .38spl. It's not "modern" ammunition that defines it, familiarize yourself with "the list".
 
You don't give up easy, eh?
Please explain the antiques in .45acp, .38spl,.22wmr,ect because it seems I'm missing something. It seems we're all missing something, RCMP included as they're issuing antique letters for these guns. Please shooter phd, explain.

This gun is an antique unless the RCMP call it .38 s&w... As .38 s&w is on "the list".
 
ShooterPHD said:
"On the other hand, antique firearms are not considered firearms for licensing and registration purposes. Antique firearms include:

any firearms manufactured before 1898 that are not originally designed or redesigned to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition;
long guns manufactured in 1898 or later that are reproductions of flintlock, wheel-lock, or matchlock firearms; and
firearms that are classified as antique by regulations."
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And after that:

"Handguns:

•manufactured before 1898 that can discharge only rim-fire cartridges, other than .22 Calibre Short, .22 Calibre Long or .22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges;
•manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges, other than a handgun designed or adapted to discharge .32 Short Colt, .32 Long Colt, .32 Smith and Wesson, .32 Smith and Wesson Long, .32‑20 Winchester, .38 Smith and Wesson; .38 Short Colt,
.38 Long Colt, .38-40 Winchester, .44‑40 Winchester, or .45 Colt cartridges."
 
Tyockell18 said:
Hello everyone,

Contemplating on purchasing and importing a Japanese Type 26 Revolver mfg 1893 "first year of production" and its chambered for 6 rounds of 9mm jap cartridge.

I believe this cartridge is good too go, any other possible issues with importing one of these?.

Any ideas for possible brass and bullet sources.

Thanks in advance.
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Plain and simple,,they will check out your serial # and model, if it was manufactured before 1898 and the 9mm is not on the no go list regardless of what the gun will chamber, you are good to go. Just as most posters here have said. Check your serial # and manufacture date. Call the folks at the tech office too. They are very helpfull and can find a wealth of info!
 
burnt_servo said:
as long as the handgun is made previously to 1898 and the cartridge it fires is not specificly mentioned on the no go list it is considered an antique .

it is just that simple ....
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Agreed,


And I don/t see 9mm jap on that list and its dated 1893 from serial number, first year of production.

Anyways, anyone have an idea of what a good condition functional specimen is worth besides the (whatever someone will pay for it).

I have already imported several antique revolvers before (.32 rimfires and french M1873 & M1892 ect.) so Im not a newb in that regards, just dont know much about these particular guns.
 
ShooterPHD said:
Pre 1898 is one of the factors, not the only one. If it was still in use after, or can still fire/chamber current "modern" ammunition it still requires RPAL and ATT for importation.
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Maybe this is where you are hung up. Pre 1898 refers to the serial number of the specific gun, not the model's production span.
 
ShooterPHD said:
f:P:2: I don't have the energy to debate this... all these answers are available online or call you local CBSA office.
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Or you could just read the stickies, follow the link to the actual legislation, and learn something, apparently something new, even.
Then read through the flow chart that 41Colt did up. It's a pretty useful tool.

The actual date of manufacture is the only date that matters. Made before the date, AND not in one of the listed calibers, and it is a Prescribed Antique. If you get the one that was listed as the last one made on the day the cut-off was randomly applied, and the first one made the next day, as a sequential numbered set, one will and the other will not be a Prescribed Antique, provided that they are both chambered for cartridges that are not on the list in the law.
Any handgun chambered in one of the cartridges listed in the law itself, though, and it is still a handgun of whatever class it's barrel length dictates.

It'll take you less energy to read the regs yourself, and not come off as an ass, than it will to continue to spread incorrect information.

Law Enforcement? Meter Maid? Dog Catcher? Just asking, because if you are a Police Officer, and you are as stubbornly convinced of your being right, I'd really hate to be the poor bugger you unload your 'knowledge' onto while he was having a safe, fun, and Legal time with his antique handgun somewhere you didn't approve of, and particularly, if that one was chambered in a modern round.

Really. Read up on it. It's not a debate. The Law itself is available to be read.

Cheers
Trev
 
trevj said:
Law Enforcement? Meter Maid? Dog Catcher? Just asking, because if you are a Police Officer, and you are as stubbornly convinced of your being right, I'd really hate to be the poor bugger you unload your 'knowledge' onto while he was having a safe, fun, and Legal time with his antique handgun somewhere you didn't approve of, and particularly, if that one was chambered in a modern round.
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The only other time he posted in the antique forum he said he worked for the CBSA. I wonder how many legal antiques he has returned to the US or seized...
 
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