Importing ammo from Russia

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Just a quick question here - is it possible for someone without a firearms license to import a small quantity of ammo, specifically from Russia?

Here's the scenario - my wife may be going to Russia for a week or two and I'm interested in her bringing back some Silver Bear 7.62x54r in 203gr. She doesn't have a license, but my interpretation of the regulations is that you only need a license to purchase (in Canada), not import....comments?
 
While you can legally import up to 5000 rounds for your personal use without an import permit, I suspect your biggest problem will be flying it home.
 
You might find that buying ammo retail in Russia is going to be more expensive than it is here. You might also want to check what restrictions, if any, there is for you purchasing ammo in Russia. They do have gun controls there too.
 
Something you might want to check before you buy ammo in Russian. As far as I am aware it is illegal for a non-resident to purchase or posses ammo in Russia. I read an article where someone got 3-5 years for either bringing ammo into or taking it out of Russia without the proper paperwork.

I am not an expert, nor do I have first hand knowledge.... just my 2 cents and something you might want to check on....
 
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"...just ship it home in a few parcels..." That you cannot do.
The ammo has to be approved and authorized by the Explosives Regulatory Division of Natural Resources Canada too. The Russians likely require an export permit as a minimum. Not worth the fuss.
 
Boonie Boy said:
Just a quick question here - is it possible for someone without a firearms license to import a small quantity of ammo,
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It is illegal for someone without a license to be in possession of ammunition in Canada. As the importer, there would be a period of time when she would be in Canada and in possession, therefore it would be illegal.

What makes you think Silver Bear is available in Russia? Isn't that an American brand manufactured in Russia, like Wolf?
 
BattleRife said:
It is illegal for someone without a license to be in possession of ammunition in Canada. As the importer, there would be a period of time when she would be in Canada and in possession, therefore it would be illegal.

What makes you think Silver Bear is available in Russia? Isn't that an American brand manufactured in Russia, like Wolf?
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This is the info I'm looking for...any chance you could quote me the specific regs on this?
 
This is what the Firearms Act has to say:

Authorization to transfer ammunition to individuals

25. A person may transfer ammunition that is not prohibited ammunition to an individual only if the individual

(a) until January 1, 2001, holds a licence authorizing him or her to possess firearms or a prescribed document; or

(b) after January 1, 2001, holds a licence authorizing him or her to possess firearms.


So, maybe she can bring it in without a license, and possess it, so long as it is transferred to her outside Canada.
 
Importing ammo

make sure your wife does'nt end up in jail over a few rounds of ammo . the jails in that country are not like the jails we have here . check the laws there first pretaining to haveing ammo and not being a resident of that country . it might cost you a small fortune to get her out of jail or she will have to do the time . not fun . :(
 
There is still the technicality of her possessing ammo. If the Customs guy is having a bad day, then the ammo will be detained because she doesn't have a PAL. They don't need a reason, just the same way Customs stops many perfectly legal, mailed items entering Canada.

They seize, and you have to prove you are correct.

So have you checked to see if it really is cheaper over there?

Going through security.

I remember that all bags are x-rayed by Russian customs before you leave the country. This is not security, but export control.

The other thing that will happen is there will be nitrocellulose (powder) residue over everything she touches and in/on her suitcases. Depending on what airline she is flying, (some do their own security) it will most likely set off bomb sniffers. So the ammo MUST be declared to the airline at checkin, otherwise it won't arrive. Make sure your airline will allow transport of ammo, some don't on international flights.
 
Is there any way i can get my wife involved in this ammo smuggling in Russia thing, you know, esp. the part about long prison sentences, I'm not worried about the kind of ammo, it's crappy ammo anyways.
 
sunray said:
"It is necessary to have a valid firearms licence in order to possess or borrow a firearm or to acquire, by any means, a firearm or ammunition."
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/owner-proprietaire-eng.htm
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yes but this applies within Canada. As I see it it says you can't acquire ammo in Canada without a license but doesn't say you can't possess ammunition within Canada without a license. I thought child molestation was the only crime where Canada will enforce Canandian laws on Canadians even where they are outside Canada

So if the ammo was acquired in Russia why can't she bring it in? seems to me she possesses it at the point she declares it to Customs.

maybe one of the the lawyers on this board could clear this up. Or ask the CFC
 
"...why can't she bring it in?..." Has to be approved for importation by Natural Resources Canada, for one.
"...and the country is an unnamed firearms-friendly place..." You still have to comply with the unnamed firearms-friendly place's laws. If said 'unnamed firearms-friendly place' is just south of the 49th Parallel, a Federal export permit is required and you can't be in possession of firearms or ammo unless you're there to hunt or attend a match with the appropriate permits.
 
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