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well i figured this would be best in the noob section, i serched but suck at the internet.

whats the deal with bringing in ammo from the states? i know with fire arms theres s**t loads of paper work and hoops to jump threw, but what about ammo? im not talking like tracers , armor piercing stuff just regular old sabot slugs, and .50 pistol ammo?

there is ONE out door store here that deals with fire arms so they basically get away with selling stuff for what ever they want, next place is over 100km away and its a small selection at best. and dont even carry what i want most of the time

any info or links to follow would be great

happy shooting
 
Two separate but related issues.
1- Importation into Canada.
2- Export from the United States.
Item 1 is the easy part, if it is for personal use, and under 5000 rounds.
Item 2 is the hard part. Ammunition can only be exported by a licenced exporting business. The business will need to get a specific permit for the shipment from the US Department of State. You will need to supply a Canadian International Import Certificate for them to get the export permit.
You cannot buy or possess ammunition yourself, unless you have gone through the steps to do so legally - it can be done. But ammunition purchased this way cannot be exported, only used in the US.
 
thanks, i kept searching after i posted and found some info, like i said i suck at the internet :D

starting to sound like i might as well buck up and buy a press...less work that way
 
As Tiriaq has pointed out, For a private individual to legally import ammunition from the U.S. takes a mountain of paperwork, time, and patience............it can be done, but it is too much of a headache for most shooters...........Even reloading components (brass,powder, bullets, and primers) have to go through the same proceedures.............

Find yourself a good local source and support Canadian Shooting retailers............;)
 
yeah i try to suport the local guys but theres a point that its just straight up being rippped off, for reloading supplies they are on par so thats not a big deal, how ever i stoped in there the other day to grab some sabot slugs to sight my new 12g in, all they had were winchester supreme 2 3/4" for just under 30 bones... on line price - about 13 bones, hell even off canadian web sights they are only about 15

and can any one point me in the right direction for canadain supliers that are good to deal with? i keep coming up with a bunch of junk web sites
 
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This is only the case if you are having it shipped to canada, correct?
If one where to drive over the border, and bring it back with them, it is a different story as for paperwork. You will only need your PAL, as long as its less then 5000 rounds, and the ammunition is legal to possess in canada.

T
 
toddojoe said:
This is only the case if you are having it shipped to canada, correct?
If one where to drive over the border, and bring it back with them, it is a different story as for paperwork. You will only need your PAL, as long as its less then 5000 rounds, and the ammunition is legal to possess in canada.

T
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nope

you still need to be able to export it out of the US, and for that you require paperwork....

look here

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238177&highlight=exporting

and a huge thread here

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51554
 
toddojoe said:
This is only the case if you are having it shipped to canada, correct?
If one where to drive over the border, and bring it back with them, it is a different story as for paperwork. You will only need your PAL, as long as its less then 5000 rounds, and the ammunition is legal to possess in canada.

T
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WRONG!!!!!!................you can not buy or possess ammunition or reloading components while in the U.S. unless you have the required U.S. paperwork.

If you drive across and try to do it yourself without the proper U.S. export permits, this is what can happen:

-As a Canadian in the U.S. you have NO rights and are classed as an Alien.
-You run the risk of having your goods and vehicle seized
-A Large Monetary fine.
-The U.S. authorities can hold and jail you for up to 30 days WITHOUT charging you.
-You can be barred from future entry into the U.S.

A few CGN'rs have had VERY unpleasent Border experiences trying to bring back ammunition and/or reloading components.Goods have been seized, and members detained for over 8 hours.


As has been said many, many times, Canada is not the problem................the problem is the U.S. Export regulations.
 
Build a bridge to Europe or Asia, that way you can avoid having to deal with the US export issue.
 
Take it easy on the new guys........

No need to yell at them, or get all upset at them, they asked a question, they deserve an answer

Yes the question has been asked a zillion times, and it can be answered a zillion more times, with out making the new guy feel like crap while giving them the answer

Staff should not be so hard on a new member, it does not show them a reason to stay and ask more questions, but rather pack up and leave and go elsewhere

I have modded at many sites, owned a few, ran a few, but have never been that way with a newbie

One has to remember, not all of us know it all, that is why they come here to hear and learn, and be pointed in the right direction, or told the right from the wrong

Just saying,,,,take it easy on the newbies
 
Ftaview said:
Take it easy on the new guys........

No need to yell at them, or get all upset at them, they asked a question, they deserve an answer

Yes the question has been asked a zillion times, and it can be answered a zillion more times, with out making the new guy feel like crap while giving them the answer

Staff should not be so hard on a new member, it does not show them a reason to stay and ask more questions, but rather pack up and leave and go elsewhere

I have modded at many sites, owned a few, ran a few, but have never been that way with a newbie

One has to remember, not all of know it all, that is why they come here to hear and learn, and be pointed in the right direction, or told the right from the wrong

Just saying,,,,take it easy on the newbies
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When you make incorrect statements that could get someone in deep trouble (Like the one I quoted), you need to get the point across loud and clear.............;)
 
I was going to reply, with more, but I see no reason

your the mod not me, I am not one to question your ways

sorry I was only trying to make it more welcoming for the newbies....

I will go to sleep now.....nite
 
TWO WORDS BUY CANADIAN Reason check ATF REGULATIONS. Simply put buy in USA and get caught exporting....FELONEY
 
Skullboy said:
When you make incorrect statements that could get someone in deep trouble (Like the one I quoted), you need to get the point across loud and clear.............;)
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It was phrased as a question... I would hope that ppl wouldn't act on information posted as a question, as it would be apparent to me to look into it further.

Thank you for the clarification, as I too wanted to know before I head south. It had been some time since I crossed the border with someone bringing in ammo as they had an FAC at the time.

T
 
Ftaview said:
Take it easy on the new guys........

No need to yell at them, or get all upset at them, they asked a question, they deserve an answer

Yes the question has been asked a zillion times, and it can be answered a zillion more times, with out making the new guy feel like crap while giving them the answer

Staff should not be so hard on a new member, it does not show them a reason to stay and ask more questions, but rather pack up and leave and go elsewhere

I have modded at many sites, owned a few, ran a few, but have never been that way with a newbie

One has to remember, not all of us know it all, that is why they come here to hear and learn, and be pointed in the right direction, or told the right from the wrong

Just saying,,,,take it easy on the newbies
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Full agreement here. I have seen it before when we get a bit too blunt with the new guys.
Yeah, the same old questions get to be a bit tiresome, but to them, its all new.
I've probably been a bit blunt myself at times too....:redface:
 
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Ammuntion Import/Export

toddojoe said:
Thank you,
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If you were offended by the post I made, I apologise.

It was not meant to offend, but only to clearly state to all who look at that thread what is required, and what can happen if you don't follow U.S. regulations.

The comment you made about going across to buy ammunition yourself with only your PAL and bring it back into Canada could be interpreted to be a statement of fact. To me it didn't come across as a question.

Some members have been known to take what is posted here and act on it without looking into the matter themselves.

Someone doing what you posted could have found themselves in some pretty deep trouble.

This is why we tell members to look into things for themselves to find out what is required before acting or posting information on the forum.

I wrote my post in large, bold Italics so that it would catch peoples attention and let them know what is required.

Again, sorry if you took offense to the way I posted, but the point had to be made.

cheers, SKBY.
 
Check ATF web site.

In short non immigrant aliens CAN NOT have firearms or ammunition.

There are exceptions. They are listed at ATF. If your in the USA hunting and are there with your firearm legally entered into the USA. You can in some state buy ammunition for your needs. Foreign national of a friendly country to the USA with a HUNTING LICENSE.

BEST to read ATF'S FAQ's

But the unused ammo must remain in the USA.
 
Skullboy said:
If you were offended by the post I made, I apologise.

It was not meant to offend, but only to clearly state to all who look at that thread what is required, and what can happen if you don't follow U.S. regulations.

cheers, SKBY.
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thank you...
I replied to FTAViews' response before reading the rest of the thread. I can respect someone sticking up for a newbie, and wanted to express that.

I also appreciate you correcting my information... as it was phrased as a question, implying I wanted further clarification.
My information was old, and I had only located Canadian legal information on the subject until today (thank you for the links to the other posts). I am going south shortly, and am happy to be correctly informed as to the laws down south, and not ending up in the clink myself.

T
 
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