Importing Valmet?

Questar said:
- Common in Northern communities where it was at one time supplied by the Federal Government.[/I]
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I've been googling for a while, and I haven't found any other references to the Valmet's being given out by the Fed's. Does anyone know of any specific examples?

Perhaps, instead of importing a Valmet from another country, there may be some unregistered ones that could be bought from owners in northern communities.

I've never made it farther north than Whitehorse, but the idea of picking up a rare gun with some unique history(federal handout that led to an exception on the prohib list) has got me dreaming....

(ps. Of course, I'd be registering any unregistered non-restricted Valmet I found. Figured I should add that before someone got the wrong idea...)
 
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Maybe if someone manages to convince whatever outfit to allow a Canadian outfit to make a production run "under license" ?

Armedsask said:
No you can't. The only Valmets that are non-restricted are those made by Valmet. Valmet no longer exists so there are no more Valmets.

This has been covered before.
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RobSmith said:
Maybe if someone manages to convince whatever outfit to allow a Canadian outfit to make a production run "under license" ?
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Valmet no longer exists so you can't produce something under license. I'll try to make this clear, as far as the CFC/RCMP are concerned there is a finite number of Valmets. There will never be anymore. Full stop.
 
Armedsask said:
No you can't. The only Valmets that are non-restricted are those made by Valmet. Valmet no longer exists so there are no more Valmets.

This has been covered before.
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A "Velmet" proper is only in the trade name, making a clone of a "Velmet" would only entail issues of trademarks rather than any substantive firearms regulations.

I wonder how many standard AK parts fit unto a Velmet?
 
olegs69 said:
A "Velmet" proper is only in the trade name, making a clone of a "Velmet" would only entail issues of trademarks rather than any substantive firearms regulations.

I wonder how many standard AK parts fit unto a Velmet?
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Dude are you trolling or what, it's Valmet just like the Tractor!
 
retepnosflow said:
Dude are you trolling or what, it's Valmet just like the Tractor!
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Sorry, I mixed up the spelling; it's good to see that the spelling task force is out and covering our backs...

My point is that a new manufacture Valmet receiver ought to be exempt. Even if it is not made by the company.

The alternative? There is no way that a justice would claim that only original Valmets are exempt due to the whole sustenance hunter side of the argument. That would be tantamount to ethnic discrimination.
 
It's only a Valmet if it's made by Valmet - who don't build guns anymore as a stand alone company, there is no such thing as a "Valmet Clone" since it would be prohib as an AK Variant. Make sense? If it doesn't then you get it.
 
olegs69 said:
Sorry, I mixed up the spelling; it's good to see that the spelling task force is out and covering our backs...

My point is that a new manufacture Valmet receiver ought to be exempt. Even if it is not made by the company.
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Valmet rifles are prohibed as an AK47 varaint. However, legislation is written as such that it exempts the Valmet rifles that were made. Any "clone" made would not be a Valmet. It would be a Valmet clone, and therefore prohib because it is an AK variant.

Do I have to start drawing pictures for you guys?
 
Please draw some pictures, perhaps then I will understand.
Cukier and Co does not need more restrictions, the gun owner's fudd gene will run its course...

Here is the OIC, in verbatim:

"Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 13

64. The firearm of the design commonly known as the AK-47 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it except for the Valmet Hunter, the Valmet Hunter Auto and the Valmet M78 rifles, but including the

(a) AK-74;

(b) AK Hunter;

(c) AKM;....."

What makes a Valmet M78 reciever different from another Valmet M78 reciever? It's the same damn block of metal. Please bring forth some case law to the alternative.
 
olegs69 said:
Sorry, I mixed up the spelling; it's good to see that the spelling task force is out and covering our backs...

My point is that a new manufacture Valmet receiver ought to be exempt. Even if it is not made by the company.

The alternative? There is no way that a justice would claim that only original Valmets are exempt due to the whole sustenance hunter side of the argument. That would be tantamount to ethnic discrimination.
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I are Spelling Quiz Moderator!!!!! No pun intended it just caught me off gaurd!
 
olegs69 said:
Please draw some pictures, perhaps then I will understand.
Cukier and Co does not need more restrictions, the gun owner's fudd gene will run its course...

Here is the OIC, in verbatim:

"Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 13

64. The firearm of the design commonly known as the AK-47 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it except for the Valmet Hunter, the Valmet Hunter Auto and the Valmet M78 rifles, but including the

(a) AK-74;

(b) AK Hunter;

(c) AKM;....."

What makes a Valmet M78 reciever different from another Valmet M78 reciever? It's the same damn block of metal. Please bring forth some case law to the alternative.
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You would see it and call it a Valmet Hunter or M78 clone.

Since the Valmet Hunter and M78 are AK variants, the CFC would see the clone as an AK variant.
 
alexD92 said:
Come to think of it, why couldn't they give the FN's instead! Much better rifles the them Valmets...:( And that would have made them non-restricted. :D
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Just wondering, what exactly makes the FN "A MUCH better rifle"? Valmets are the highest quality variants of the best assualt rifle ever made...
 
olegs69 said:
Please draw some pictures, perhaps then I will understand.
Cukier and Co does not need more restrictions, the gun owner's fudd gene will run its course...

Here is the OIC, in verbatim:

"Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 13

64. The firearm of the design commonly known as the AK-47 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it except for the Valmet Hunter, the Valmet Hunter Auto and the Valmet M78 rifles, but including the

(a) AK-74;

(b) AK Hunter;

(c) AKM;....."

What makes a Valmet M78 reciever different from another Valmet M78 reciever? It's the same damn block of metal. Please bring forth some case law to the alternative.
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I hate to disapoint you guys... But you are trying to apply logic and rational thought process to a gun law that hasn't got any... It doesn't work!

The Valmet Hunter was deemed non-restricted for the exact same reason the other semi-automatic AK were deemed prohibited... Because someone said so :runaway:


I think our best approach would be to force the government to make public the documentation and emperical data used for this prohibition. If they cannot justify it, then they should scrap it.
 
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