Imr 4227

cote_b said:
Thanks guys. I'm going to get the brass tumbled up this week and start developing some loads. I also have some 200 grain Frontier FP and 230 grain Winchester JHP boolits on the way from a fellow CGN'er in a deal for some .44 brass. I feel as though that since I will now be reloading it, I should look into another firearm in .44 Mag. I have a 629 at the moment, but perhaps a Ruger Blackhawk or some long guns in .44 Mag will be in store for 2014.
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That's one of the evil things reloading does, convinces you to buy more guns! I got a few milsurps because of reloading and casting. Luckily I don't live super close to an outdoor range so I don't shoot then that often.
 
We so often read where H110/296 doesn't like to be loaded down. I have never found this to be so.
24 or 25 grains is a maximum load in a 44 mag. I have taken H110 down to 17 grains and it was just as accurate at 17 as it was at 24.
One of the best groups I ever made with a Ruger Super Blackhawk was 1 1/4 inches at 50 yards. This was with 20 grains of H110 and the 240 grain Keith style bullet.
14 grains is quite a heavy load in a 357 mag with the 168grain Keith bullet. I have had a very accurate load at 10 grains.
I used to use H110 for very light loads in a 30-06 with cast bullets, like 8 grains, and found it completely satisfactory.
 
H4831 said:
We so often read where H110/296 doesn't like to be loaded down. I have never found this to be so.
24 or 25 grains is a maximum load in a 44 mag. I have taken H110 down to 17 grains and it was just as accurate at 17 as it was at 24.
One of the best groups I ever made with a Ruger Super Blackhawk was 1 1/4 inches at 50 yards. This was with 20 grains of H110 and the 240 grain Keith style bullet.
14 grains is quite a heavy load in a 357 mag with the 168grain Keith bullet. I have had a very accurate load at 10 grains.
I used to use H110 for very light loads in a 30-06 with cast bullets, like 8 grains, and found it completely satisfactory.
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I was using 15 grains of H-110 with a 158 grain Berry bullet. The groups at 25 yards were terrible. I switched over to the 158 grain bullet made by Western Munitions. That bullet has a cannelure (unlike the Berry's) and I did a light roll crimp. They performed much better.
 
Muskyhunter, I'll see how it works in my .44 loads and let you know. My friend wants to try some in his 500 S&W too.
 
Well, we loaded our first rounds of 2014 today. Myself and CGN member .Ben loaded up 100 rounds of .44 mag with a few different loads. We were loading 240 grain DRG cast lead and did 5 lots of 20 rounds per load to shoot them head to head to see what works best.

4227- 22gr, 22.5gr and 23 gr

Titegroup- 9gr, 9.6gr
 
I think that I would be careful loading 4227 in the &.62x39. It seems to have an ideal burning rate. But as I recall many years ago Charlie Parkinson told me not to 4227 in a rifle with loads that might exceed 40,000 psi. He said that at higher pressures the burning rate of 4227 becomes erratic. At that time he was doing a lot of wildcatting along with Elwood Epps and they were hard on the groundhog population.
I'm just repeating what I was told and would look into it a little further before trying for some hot &.62x39 loads

Neil
 
cote_b said:
Well I just bought all the stuff to reload .44 mag and while dropping a bunch of cash, the store owner offered me 4lbs of IMR 4227 for 40 bucks ( the cans are old and rusted mind you). So I snapped those up and plan to do some .44 mag loading with it. Anyone else use 4227 for their .44 mags? Anyone have some good load recipes? I also got a lb of titegroup aswell, since I have had good luck with that for 9mm loads.
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I looked back and i was using 23-24 grs IMR4227 with 240 gr and 250 gr-ers reg primer :) RJ
 
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