IN-STOCK: All-New TYPE 81 SR

Ah ####, that's rough man =\, yea not sure why someone recommend a brass screw ? They're definitely more fragile than a steel one, I've broken brass punches accidentally with just a little inappropriate force and that scares me to use a load bearing screw made of brass =\ You gotta get that one out somehow to replace it.. maybe try and drill it out? Or drill a small hole into it and try to get a screw driver into the malleable brass and unscrew it ? Goodluck man

Lol they are only more fragile when you apply force to it. They have give to them but not meant to be torqued the fvck out of... duh
 
Brass is way too fragile and soft, at least I learned never use a brass screw on any part that take forces. I guess I'm done with it, if the stock is broken in the future I will just contact TI to replace it.

Follow simple instructions and you wouldn't have faired the way you did.
Mine is fine with out a single issue using a brass screw.
To each their own when they don't quite understand how much force to use...
 
Did you use a drill to install it??
We're you jumping on the stock?

Brass is fragile but not glass. From your pics, you sunk that screw in way deeper then I

I drilled a hole, then used a screwdriver to torque it down by hand. Yes I think I went deeper than you, that should be the cause.
 
I drilled a hole but I think I went deeper than you, that should be the cause.

Considering you stated you drilled the hole then tried to tightened it (right there either tells me you were off with the hole/screw angle) or you forced it in when you shouldn't have. I had resistance on mine, but no where near as much to break the head off a screw.
 
Got the bolt back. took a good amount of force. Seems like an issue with the hammer as it's now locked down and the trigger is still locked up. I'll fiddle a bit more but I'm tempted to just send it back to TI, I don't care where it comes from this is a more than annoying for the price paid.

I had this happen to mine earlier this evening while I was messing with it.

I was trying to figure out the trigger reset point and accidentally released the hammer while riding the bolt forward.

What you need to do to free it up is hold the bolt to the rear, then slide something in to push the hammer down far enough for the seat to catch it again.

It’s silly, but some things are just user error.
 
Just so people who don't understand using brass...

Brass pins are what is used for stock repair kits and what is used for ak47 laminate stock and handguard wood sets.
 
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So far only 2 (or 3?) have reported the stock crack, unless I know what exactly happened, I am not messing with my gun. I already mentioned which action I will take if necessary and it won't be a screw behind the receiver.
 
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My suggestion is do not use brass screw, use the steel one. :(
I drilled a decent hole and tried to tighten it then the screw head is broken. Now there is no contact to the frame.
Also, I went to Homedepo, Canadiantires, couldn't find the correct nut for the trigger screw.




Who knows if your brass screw was brass or quality brass, hardware is mostly cheap garbage these days. I did recently remove some trim head stainless fasteners from some composite decking that I had to remove and those stainless screws were impressive in their ability to bend without snapping like a GRK which I find hold well in line and pull things together nicely, but are brittle and fail under lateral stress loads.

If it is a brass screw that you used you could peen what's left with a hammer and a suitable punch so that it flares out and secures your stock as you intended.
 
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Who knows if your brass screw was brass or quality brass, hardware is mostly cheap garbage these days. I did recently remove some trim head stainless fasteners from some composite decking that I had to remove and those stainless screws were impressive in their ability to bend without snapping like a GRK which I find hold well in line and pull things together nicely, but are brittle and fail under lateral stress loads.

If it is a brass screw that you used you could peen what's left with a hammer and a suitable punch so that it flares out and secures your stock as you intended.

Yeah right, can hammer it but I guess I just live with it for now.
 
What I did was drill and thread a m6 screw sleeve into the stock and then put a m6 machine screw with a copper crush washer to it, removable if needed and permanent and sturdy too
 
Brass is way too fragile and soft, at least I learned never use a brass screw on any part that take forces.

That is the correct assumption. I use brass screws for lots of decorative stuff on my Steam Launch. Decoration and some corrosive resistance... thats all they are good for. They twist off so easily under what most would consider normal torque for a ferrous wood screw.


I just looked this up, the withdrawal force of a typical #10 wood screw threaded into dry Spruce is about 109lbs per inch of penetration. I havent measured the geometry yet but going off the pics ive seen here i bet many placing a screw diagonally into the comb of the buttstock via the cleaning rod hole in the rear trunnion (Bfiles method) would be getting most of an inch of penetration. 109lbs im sure is adequate.
 
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I had this happen to mine earlier this evening while I was messing with it.

I was trying to figure out the trigger reset point and accidentally released the hammer while riding the bolt forward.

What you need to do to free it up is hold the bolt to the rear, then slide something in to push the hammer down far enough for the seat to catch it again.

It’s silly, but some things are just user error.

I don't think that's the issue. Anyways turns out the stock split when I was racking it. So all a moot point really. But seeing how easily the stock split I'm not even sure I want a replacement and would very heavily consider a refund if it were an option. It's a cool rifle and all but damn I see many a rifle needing replacement in the near future. TI is gonna have a pretty big problem on their hands until they come up with a real fix.
 
I don't think that's the issue. Anyways turns out the stock split when I was racking it. So all a moot point really. But seeing how easily the stock split I'm not even sure I want a replacement and would very heavily consider a refund if it were an option. It's a cool rifle and all but damn I see many a rifle needing replacement in the near future. TI is gonna have a pretty big problem on their hands until they come up with a real fix.

Damn that sucks man, sorry to hear =\, did it crack at the top stock rivet like the others , got a pic ?
 
I'm just getting off a night shift so I'll have to do that later today after a bit of a nap. (always a pain posting pics on cgn) but a piece basically slotted out where the top rivet is.
 
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