In this thread, we discuss the Chiappa Alaskan Scout rifles.

cheapsk8 said:
Yes. Longer sight radius for both accuracy and finer adjustments(not 6" per half turn like the one fellow mentioned with his 12"). Better velocity and noticeably easier on the ears. Plus better balance and smoother swing on a fast moving target. If I really had a hankering for a 12", I wouldn't bother with a break down model and the disadvantages associated with one. JMO from experience.
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Well said cheapsk8...good explanation of why I chose the 16" barrel for my takedown.
I own a Ranch Hand in .45colt and the 12" barrel with a buttstock and it is one handy,packable rifle and really shines with the pistol cartridge.
A 12" 45.70 though???...no thanks, a total novelty gun in my eyes.
 
anglia2 said:
Nice . I thought my Guide Gun was short ! What loads are you using in it , and how's the controllability / recoil ?
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It’s just fine, shoots like any other 45-70 I’ve shot, bit more fireball though. I’m currently running HSM bear loads and some 325gn hornady I picked up cheap. It’s still 8lbs so it isn’t light, but on the shoulder it feels a lot lighter than other similar rifles I’ve shot. Of course some people seem concerned about the velocity losses, myself I couldn’t care less, last I shot it, it knocked my buddy’s plate off it’s hanger so I feel it’s still plenty effective.
 
Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Well said cheapsk8...good explanation of why I chose the 16" barrel for my takedown.
I own a Ranch Hand in .45colt and the 12" barrel with a buttstock and it is one handy,packable rifle and really shines with the pistol cartridge.
A 12" 45.70 though???...no thanks, a total novelty gun in my eyes.
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What’s wrong with a novelty gun? And on that note I feel like the ranch hand is much more of a novelty gun, having shot a few the full stock on mine makes a pretty big difference. If I can ever find the sight with the rail on it I will be adding a reflex so the sight picture is a moot point to me anyways.
 
Love to have that as my other compact cabin rifle along side my Henry 12" barrel Big Boy in 44mag. Till then I'm waiting for the new 16" barrel Marlin 45-70 Trapper.

If you ever decide to sell it PM me first.[quote/]


You bet, but don’t hold your breath, I though about selling it once, it was a really bad dream. Although, I really like the look of the blued version of the ridge runner with the 18.5” barrel, not because of the sight radius or velocity or whatever, but I am more of a black rifle guy and an all black 45-70 with a threaded barrel is pretty awesome.
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Novelty gun.....Bahahahahahahahahahaha.... That's the most BS statement I've read so far.

Anything 4 or 2 legged on the receiving end at 5 to 80 yards with a center mass or in the boiler shot won't think its a novelty gun.

Novelty gun..... Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

:popCorn:
 
Scrumbag said:
I would imagine that .45-70 with a 12" bbl would be LOUD!!!
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It’s not really that bad. At least I didn’t think so, quieter than a braked 223. And I could care less about the uneven halves, it’s the assembled length that matters. It’s rarely ever taken down, I would have bought a non takedown 12” 45-70 but they don’t exist here in canada. At least I’ve never seen one.
 
The ROC said:
Novelty gun.....Bahahahahahahahahahaha.... That's the most BS statement I've read so far.

Anything 4 or 2 legged on the receiving end at 5 to 80 yards with a center mass or in the boiler shot won't think its a novelty gun.

Novelty gun..... Bahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

:popCorn:
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Opinions are like a$$h@les...and clearly there are others who share my preference for a takedown with roughly equal halves. Wanstalls had requests for the longer barreled versions as well and thankfully they obliged.
As for the 12" 45.70 takedown, if it turns your crank then fill yer boots, but the lost velocity,diminished magazine capacity,portly carry-weight,short sight radius and concussive muzzle blast just don't get me hard.
One round of 45.70 eats up the magazine space of two hot and heavy loaded 45Colt cartridges and requires an action that is roughly a pound and a half heavier than the svelte little 1892. The pistol cartridges also gain speed with the short rifle barrel rather than lose it.

Potatoes,pototoes...:popCorn:
 
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Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Well said cheapsk8...good explanation of why I chose the 16" barrel for my takedown.
I own a Ranch Hand in .45colt and the 12" barrel with a buttstock and it is one handy,packable rifle and really shines with the pistol cartridge.
A 12" 45.70 though???...no thanks, a total novelty gun in my eyes.
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Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Opinions are like a$$h@les...and clearly there are others who share my preference for a takedown with roughly equal halves. Wanstalls had requests for the longer barreled versions as well and thankfully they obliged.
As for the 12" 45.70 takedown, if it turns your crank then fill yer boots, but the lost velocity,diminished magazine capacity,portly carry-weight,short sight radius and concussive muzzle blast just don't get me hard.
One round of 45.70 eats up the magazine space of two hot and heavy loaded 45Colt cartridges and requires an action that is roughly a pound and a half heavier than the svelte little 1892. The pistol cartridges also gain speed with the short rifle barrel rather than lose it.

Potatoes,pototoes...:popCorn:
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Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Such a typical response butt why you talk about yourself like that.... Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

:popCorn:
 
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So here's a question...

I finally got around to disassembling, cleaning, and lubing my Alaskan Scout. Everything went well. Came apart and seems to have gone back together the way it's supposed to.

One thing I noticed though, is that when it's cocked, the firing pin plunger slides pretty freely in and out of the back of the bolt. If you hold the gun vertically and shake it up and down, it flops in and out like crazy.

I don't know if it did this before I took it apart, but I disassembled and reassembled it a couple more times just to be sure, and it still does it. Is this normal? Did I do something wrong? I haven't shot it since, but the gun seems to function properly otherwise.
 
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^I should also mention that I did not actually disassemble the bolt. I just removed it from the receiver.
 
Hmmmm.

I will look into that. Thanks.

Edit: Actually, looking at that diagram, there doesn't appear to be a firing pin spring.

Doing a bit of googling, it seems that some '92s have a firing pin spring and some don't?

Apparently the Rossi version does, the Winchester might not, and not much info about the Chiappa, but I honestly don't remember seeing one when I was cleaning the bolt.
 
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kagia said:
Hmmmm.

I will look into that. Thanks.

Edit: Actually, looking at that diagram, there doesn't appear to be a firing pin spring.

Doing a bit of googling, it seems that some '92s have a firing pin spring and some don't?

Apparently the Rossi version does, the Winchester might not, and not much info about the Chiappa, but I honestly don't remember seeing one when I was cleaning the bolt.
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Well, maybe I need to eat some crow on this one......I was looking at the ejector spring in the diagram. Serves me right for posting at 1:30am when I can't sleep.
 
Anyone notice that their lever has a lot of side to side play right out of the box? Mine is quite sloppy, and I don't care much for that. Got a couple hundred rounds through it and it functions fine though.
 
Wow... necro thread :). I got the .357 Mag. 12" just before Christmas. There's a little slop in the lever, but not what I'd call excessive. I'm not otherwise familiar with the 92 action so I don't know how much of this is inherent in the design. (My other levers are Marlins.)

My only slight complaint is that the wood they use for the stock is pretty soft, as I discovered when I wanted to put sling swivels on it (there isn't enough clearancce behind the TD lever for a clamp style on the 12") I'd have thought that some otherwise nondescript hardwood might have been used, given that it's rubber-covered so the grain isn't relevant. I ended up silver-soldering a semi-circular band onto the back side of a swivel stud and epoxying that into the barrel channel of the forend, just behind the forend cap in order to have enough support. Had to very carefully Dremel out a little bit of wood to allow it to fit.

Other than that, it's pretty slick. IMHO, the takedown feature isn't really necessary on a 12" barrel version anyway. An alternative would have been to make the butt stock easily removable, with some sort of latch rather than the traditional bolt. Without the need for the barrel to unscrew, this would also make a longer sight radius possible by allowing the Skinner sight to be installed further back, right over the chamber. It might be possible to mount a very compact micro-dot over the chamber even so, but it would have to allow the barrel to swivel if you wanted to take the rifle down. Custom gunsmith work for sure.

Easy to redesign something from the comfot of your couch, of course... :)


Addendum: Having not used mine for some time, I just noticed one other thing: the screw that secures the loading gate (goes through the frame and through a hole at the end of the gate spring) was loose. Unfortunately, there is a non-captive nut on the other side. The nut has 2 flat sides and fits into a recess on the inside of the frame, so it should be fairly easy to tighten the screw w/o the nut turning, but mine didn't want to cooperate so I've had to disasssemble the action to get at it and have decided to epoxy the nut in place, then I'll use some blue Loctite to keep the screw from loosening. The nut should really be captive. Perhaps it could be soldered on but the epoxy should do the trick. I've noticed that some of the screws do seem to come loose, so Loctiting them in is not a bad idea.
 
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