INDEP - Are they prohib

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Does anyone have the OIC list handy? Is the INDEP subgun from Portugal prohibited, likely under the H&K list as a varient?

It's in production in the US as a semi. Just wondered if it's importable and couldn't remember of the top of my head if it was listed in the old OIC#s.

While it uses an H&K derived fire control group, the rest of the gun seems proprietary. If it ain't on the list, it might be kosher.
 
Looks like the bolt/carrier, reciever, and barrel/trunnion are all proprietary. Unless it's a named prohib, I suspect the semi version will be kosher.
 
The roller system has been used in other designs. Probably blowback any way. The receiver is unique. Only the lower seems stock. And hell you can buy these now legally (ie 94 version)
 
Scarecrow said:
If its sold as "based on" or "variant of" a HK its prohibited.
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The manufacturers response.

Dave, Our bolt/carrier is proprietary.....The receiver is only SIMILAR to H&K and the barrel/trunnion is unlike UZI or HK......Jerry
 
Likely the lab would prohib it at first glance. The guns was made using HK licensed tooling from the INDEP G3 lines and adapted to a proprietary design. It would take a court challenge to change there minds and even that might not work because you can draw a direct line between this gun and the manufacture of th HK G3. Is there someone in the US making these?
 
CanAm said:
Likely the lab would prohib it at first glance. The guns was made using HK licensed tooling from the INDEP G3 lines and adapted to a proprietary design. It would take a court challenge to change there minds and even that might not work because you can draw a direct line between this gun and the manufacture of th HK G3. Is there someone in the US making these?
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Using that logic, you could expect the Swiss Arms rifles to be prohib for the same reasons. Ya, I know, quit accusing them of using logic.

The only part that seems to use off the shelf H&K parts is the trigger group, and even that isn't a direct replacement. As the reciever, bolt/carrier, and the barrel/trunion are not identical to any on the prohib list, and the current US manufacturer isn't likely to sabotage the effort by claiming otherwise, I suspect it would be OK to import. Heck, they didn't prohib the FAMAE or the BRS even though they are "cousins" of guns on the prohib list.

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CanAm said:
Likely the lab would prohib it at first glance. The guns was made using HK licensed tooling from the INDEP G3 lines and adapted to a proprietary design. It would take a court challenge to change there minds and even that might not work because you can draw a direct line between this gun and the manufacture of th HK G3. Is there someone in the US making these?
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As long as the manufacturer does not advertise it as a varient it should be ok. The forensics folks never make decisions based solely on looks. Their first point of contact is the maker. If there is no FRT there are no minds to change and no court challenge to enter into.
 
I saw one in the Pattern Room ages ago. If it's the same thing I'm thinking of, it doesn't use the roller-locking mech, but it does use the G3 trigger group because they have a license to make G3s. My understanding was that INDEP had sold off their G3 tooling to someone in the US though. (I assume the people Dave is talking to).
 
redleg said:
As long as the manufacturer does not advertise it as a varient it should be ok. The forensics folks never make decisions based solely on looks. Their first point of contact is the maker. If there is no FRT there are no minds to change and no court challenge to enter into.
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PAC5. based soley on looks, restricted
 
P0WERWAGON said:
PAC5. based soley on looks, restricted
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Um, what is a PAC5?

Unless it is, or is interpreted to be, derivative of a gun named as prohib, or named as restricted in those few cases, than to become restricted it would have to meet the criteria of restricted.
 
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Canuck223 said:
Um, what is a PAC5?

Unless it is, or is interpreted to be, derivative of a gun named as prohib, or named as restricted in those few cases, than to become restricted it would have to meet the criteria of restricted.
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the Dlask pump Ar-like rifle.
 
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