Info on 12 gauge
- Thread starter Merl
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- Kawartha Lakes area of Ont
Sounds like a Winchester Model 11. They had a knurled section of the barrel that served as a hand grip to force the barrel back to ####/open the action.
Bob
Bob
That sounds like the Browning Recoiless single shot trap shotgun. The shotgun was a bolt-action heavy shotgun intended specifically for trap shooting. I have not shot one but have seen them used and have handled them. In use the barrel has to be "cocked" first by releasing the latch on the forend at which point it swings out at an angle. On closing the forend it pulls the barrel back into position, making the gun ready to use. The shooter then opens the bolt, inserts the shotshell, and closes the bolt. On firing the shotgun the barrel slides fowards counteracting the recoil from the round fired. The recoil is also enough to re-#### the barrel back into position for the next shot so that it does not have to be done manually for each shot.
These guns were plagued with problems and many were recalled by the factory. They enjoyed a brief appearance at the trap clubs in the early to middle 1990s, then mostly vanished.
These guns were plagued with problems and many were recalled by the factory. They enjoyed a brief appearance at the trap clubs in the early to middle 1990s, then mostly vanished.
Yup...there are some out there. Recoil operated loaders:
Browning A5
Franchi 48
Ithaka 300 / 900 ( NOT "XL"...wich are gas operated)
Winchester 50 and 59
Savage 750,755,720
Remington 11, 48 , 11-48 and sportsman48
If it's any of the above and you're intrested to sell or trade towarts a Gas operated,PM me
Browning A5
Franchi 48
Ithaka 300 / 900 ( NOT "XL"...wich are gas operated)
Winchester 50 and 59
Savage 750,755,720
Remington 11, 48 , 11-48 and sportsman48
If it's any of the above and you're intrested to sell or trade towarts a Gas operated,PM me
This is it. WINCHESTER model 11, a different gun than the Browning Auto 5.
It is.
More than a couple of people were injured. Winchester ended up replacing a lot of those guns with the Model 12.
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History?
At that time in history firearm designers would sell their ideas to the factory. John Browning was a prolific designer of guns for Winchester. Now, this is the early early early days of autoloading shotguns. JB has just designed and patented the Auto-5 shotgun and took it to Winchester to sell to them. Buuut...this time he wanted royalties, not a one time check. Well, this was unheard of in the industry and Winchester said no to John Browning. Oops.
John Browning knew this gun was going to be a hot seller and he really wanted those royalties. So he heads to Belgium and presents the Auto-5 to Fabrique Nationale, who said yes.
The gun was a great success, Remington and Savage both built the gun for the U.S. market under license, Winchester was left out in the cold with pump guns while the autoloader was selling hotcakes.
Winchester not wanting to lose out tried to reverse engineer JB's design. The patents were so extensive on the Auto-5 that replicating an operating handle was a patent infringement.
Thus the knurled barrels, injured people, the parting of ways between Winchester and John Browning, and many many decades of Browning's relationship with FN.
