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Ok, then where is the PDF on their website ? Would take a whole 7 minutes to put online.

If its there and i'm in fault here i'll join the NFA for sure.

to tell you the truth i don't know if the report is available on line, but you ca n always get it from AGM.
AGM is actually a formal Annual General Meeting which reviews organization's practices.
 
Ok, then where is the PDF on their website ? Would take a whole 7 minutes to put online.

If its there and i'm in fault here i'll join the NFA for sure.
I got mine at the AGM, I have no idea if it is on the site. What is the issue you are having? They are very transparent as to where the money goes. Whether that info is made public on the internet, I do not know. It was certainly passed around and discussed at the AGM, which all members can attendant.

Are you concerned they are spending money irresponsibly?
 
So what exactly are you going to do if they decide to reclassify one of your restricted firearms as prohibited and order you to turn it over?

If firearms are reclassified as prohibited, it really makes no difference whether you turn them in or act unlawfully and bury them in your yard. You've lost lawful enjoyment of your property in both cases and risk losing your nerve, your family, your livelihood, all your firearms, your freedom, 10's of thousands of dollars & make case for registration for the rest of us. The real issue is when gun owners are going to wise up, organize and go hard for changes in the law. The reality is, your guns are going, going.........and some are already gone. It may be too late for SA's, but it's not too late for others. Whether you have a horse in this race or not, the time to act was yesterday. Tick tock!
 
If firearms are reclassified as prohibited, it really makes no difference whether you turn them in or act unlawfully and bury them in your yard. You've lost lawful enjoyment of your property in both cases and risk losing your nerve, your family, your livelihood, all your firearms, your freedom, 10's of thousands of dollars & make case for registration for the rest of us. The real issue is when gun owners are going to wise up, organize and go hard for changes in the law. The reality is, your guns are going, going.........and some are already gone. It may be too late for SA's, but it's not too late for others. Whether you have a horse in this race or not, the time to act was yesterday. Tick tock!

I agree completely. I'm already a CSSA and NFA member. I already send useless letters to my elected crooks in office, knowing full well they'll have no effect but I try anyways. What else do you suggest beyond that? I'm fresh out ideas.

The truth is we were conned by the CONservatives. They promised to rid us of the LGR and now the RCMP are backdoor reclassifying our firearms. Most likely with their blessing. I knew this would happen. As I say, the only free cheese is in the trap.
 
I forgot to ask.. what is the big concern about possible conversion to full auto? Is that what this is about?

A) We don't have large capacity mags so full auto is useless

B) Full auto is useless as it makes it downright impossible to aim shots. Spray and pray?

C) Why the assumption many of us are interested in full auto for any reason. I've shot full auto before. Its fun for 10 seconds till you have to pay for all the ammo you burn through.

D) Please show me statistic that shows full auto is more dangerous vs semi auto.

E) I am offended by this constant assumption that legal gun owners are all borderline criminals.
 
I got mine at the AGM, I have no idea if it is on the site. What is the issue you are having? They are very transparent as to where the money goes. Whether that info is made public on the internet, I do not know. It was certainly passed around and discussed at the AGM, which all members can attendant.

Are you concerned they are spending money irresponsibly?

Yes. With absolutely no idea how they spend the money, a reasonable person would not donate... Salaries, number of employees etc. are important info to have in hand before making a decision.

Making a PDF and uploading it on their website would take 5-10 mins.

It's not as if this kind of documents were a trivial detail...
 
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I believe we need to offer viable solutions to our elected officials. We can complain all we want, but if we don't ask, we won't get. We need to suggest specific changes to the Firearms Act & Criminals code so CPC can get it done. Maybe CGN'rs should form a committee and sub-groups to re-write/repeal certain sections of the Firearms Act & Criminal Code. CPC doesn't have a clue what's needed. CPC did promise to repeal the Firearms Act - let's hold them to it.
 
this "full auto" is getting to be the lamest excuse.i`m like the kid on monte python who stands to inherit his fathers kingdom and says "but i don`t want it:)
 
I believe we need to offer viable solutions to our elected officials. We can complain all we want, but if we don't ask, we won't get. We need to suggest specific changes to the Firearms Act & Criminals code so CPC can get it done. Maybe CGN'rs should form a committee and sub-groups to re-write/repeal certain sections of the Firearms Act & Criminal Code. CPC doesn't have a clue what's needed. CPC did promise to repeal the Firearms Act - let's hold them to it.

One thing I said, is that the RCMP need to be held accountable for their actions, and that we need to be able to challenge their decisions in court, and have the decisions able to be overturned.
 
I agree completely. I'm already a CSSA and NFA member. I already send useless letters to my elected crooks in office, knowing full well they'll have no effect but I try anyways. What else do you suggest beyond that? I'm fresh out ideas.

The truth is we were conned by the CONservatives. They promised to rid us of the LGR and now the RCMP are backdoor reclassifying our firearms. Most likely with their blessing. I knew this would happen. As I say, the only free cheese is in the trap.

This^^^
 
One thing I said, is that the RCMP need to be held accountable for their actions, and that we need to be able to challenge their decisions in court, and have the decisions able to be overturned.

So who can afford to do that except possibly the NFA or CSSA. The RCMP have limitless funds to fight this. Plus, we have to consider this is a rigged game. In which case we have no chance to win.
 
Anyone love the idea that IF the RCMP WERE taken to court it would be OUR money that pays to defend them. Basically, your paying to fight yourself. Ha... poor canada.
 
So who can afford to do that except possibly the NFA or CSSA. The RCMP have limitless funds to fight this. Plus, we have to consider this is a rigged game. In which case we have no chance to win.

It shouldn't be about funds, but I know that's what it'll end up being about.... But some way to actually challenge the outcome of a classification. Like the GSG-5 and the AP80, we shouldn't have to pony up just to call the RCMP on BS.


As far as I know right now there is no option to actually challenge the classification decisions, otherwise there is no reason the GSG-5 or AP80 would have been classified as "variants".
 
Yes. With absolutely no idea how they spend the money, a reasonable person would not donate... Salaries, number of employees etc. are important info to have in hand before making a decision.

Making a PDF and uploading it on their website would take 5-10 mins.

It's not as if this kind of documents were a trivial detail...
I agree, but is there something that prompted this negative view of the NFA? email me and I'll scanned a copy for you
 
I think this is the RCMP's pathetic comeback to losing the inefficient registrations of long guns because on the grounds they are going buy for a potential full Auto any machinist could make this happen. So say good bye to even your Ruger 10/22's because these guys have a hard on for messing with the legal gun owners. I would like to know what I can do to help this matter of reclassifications so if someone knows how we can make a difference please inform.
 
Anyone love the idea that IF the RCMP WERE taken to court it would be OUR money that pays to defend them. Basically, your paying to fight yourself. Ha... poor canada.
Lol +1
This whole issue is bull***t
It's a conspiracy, but I won't get into it here
It's ironic...they wanna take away the guns and call it "safety" but I feel safer with the guns!
 
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