Inherently accurate (and inaccurate) bolt action hunting rifles, what are they?

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Which line of rifles/brands tend to be more accurate out of box? Which ones not? Why is that? Is it always the design, or built and other factors are involved? Funny thing, it doesn't seem to be directly related to their price range. Some $300 rifles have a better reputation for accuracy than some more expensive guns. Remember Stevens 200?

I am thinking bolt action, center fire hunting guns, being sold right now to keep it fair.
 
Which line of rifles/brands tend to be more accurate out of box? Which ones not? Why is that? Is it always the design, or built and other factors are involved? Funny thing, it doesn't seem to be directly related to their price range. Some $300 rifles have a better reputation for accuracy than some more expensive guns. Remember Stevens 200?

I am thinking bolt action, center fire hunting guns, being sold right now to keep it fair.

I was pleasantly surprised with the accuracy of my Savage Axis XP out of the box. Certainly not the prettiest rifle out there, but that's not why I bought it. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a budget, big-game hunting rifle.
 
Seeing as you posted this under hunting and sporting arms, I'd say there's far too much emphasis attributed to group size in the last few years. Any of the current offerings are more than adequate for hunting accuracy and more time should be spent becoming proficient at shooting from hunting positions.
I don't choose the rifle that's the most accurate for the lowest price, but rather a combination of many things, including fit, finish and aesthetics along with what I consider acceptable accuracy for hunting, which is probably a lot less than many consider acceptable.

Usually it's not the arrow, but rather the Indian that results in a miss.
 
The problem with many who post is: They actually shot 1, 2 or possibly 3 groups that were sub-moa....then they declare immediately that they possess a sub-moa rifle.

IMHO, That is not what describes a sub-moa rifle. If they shot 25 consecutive groups that were under 1 moa, then I might be inclined to believe that they have a sub-moa rifle.

As far as factory hunting rifles go, such a rifle is actually rather rare!! If you have one, you should never sell it, because it may be a long time before you find one again.

I have a 338 Win Mag [a Ruger 77 Mk 2] that quite frequently delights me with a group under 1", but I cannot classify it as a sub-moa rifle, since it will shoot 1.25 moa groups with the same loads, often on the same day.

Sadly, in the internet, it is easy to pad the truth, since no real checks and balances exist. But seasoned shooters can often pick the imagination from the reality, lol.

Regards, Dave.
 
The Savage Axis, Marlin XL-7, and Ruger American have impressed a lot of folks with moa accuracy, (with ammo they like), for peanuts. Ruger has improved the American by making it available in weather resistant stainless, and Savage has given the Axis 2 their decent Accutrigger. For a hunter on a budget, these are three very creditable options!
 
I often wonder at the psychological pressures to declare a gun "Sub-MOA"... as in; "I just dropped five grand on this gun, now I have to convince myself and everyone else that it was worth it..." OR; "I just went the tight-wad, cheap-azz route and bought a bottom-of-the-barrel rifle, now I have to declare to the world it was the best buck ever spent..."

Personally, I have had very favorable results with rifles from a dozen manufacturers... my personal favorites are M70 Featherweights and M77 MKII's.
 
I had a second hand bone stock Savage Stevens 200 in .223 Rem.
Put a cheap Bushnell Trophy on it and it shot 1-2" groups at 100 meters from the prone easily with half decent commercial ammunition.
I paid $200 bucks for it in "out of the box" condition.
It was accurate enough.
It was the only commercial hunting rifle I ever owned. All my other rifles are milsurp or battle rifles with iron sights.
They too are all accurate enough for me.
 
One thought I'd like to drag into the discussion, is the human factor, be it the reloaded ammunition or shooter themselves. Sure, sometimes you need to clean up the barrel when accuracy drops off, but be honest, sometimes it's the guy behind the trigger. I don't get out of shape as easy with rifles, but sure notice with pistols after a long winter. I don't blame the gun, I know the answer.
 
Which line of rifles/brands tend to be more accurate out of box? Which ones not?

In my opinion the ones that fit you are inherently accurate out of the box and the ones that don't are not. So much of shooting is beyond MOA, and yet I know that if I can get a rifle tweaked and hand loaded to be as accurate as it is capable of that can over come some of my inaccuracy, while a poor fitting rifle can be super accurate and I can't shoot it worth a sh!t.

I have a good Savage that I was doing super with on the bench and crappy with in the field: a cheek riser solved the problem because it was the fit and not the shooter or the rifle.

So, I know a poor answer, but the most accurate rifles out of the box are those that fit the shooter the best.
 
The truth is, groups are mostly useless for hunting rifles. They do work to a degree, because they speak to a rifle's consistency. The problem comes in the fact that we don't often shoot 2 or more shots at the same spot when hunting. As I understand it, in Germany, rifles were tested in terms of where the first shot from a cold barrel went, and that would determine whether it was pulled from the line and sent to the snipers. The ultimately impractical true test would be to fire the rifle once at the target, come back the next day and the next, doing the same thing. Were all three days' first and only shots in the same place? If yes, you have a truly worthy hunting arm. I cannot remember the last time I took a second shot at a deer (actually, I do remember borrowing a rifle, and shooting 5 rounds at a buck, as he calmly watched, and then trotted lazily off as I stood dumbfounded, deaf, and disgusted). The good of groups is only that we can hopefully track to some degree the extreme spread of highest/lowest, leftmost/rightmost shots. To the OP, we know certain things that will tend to wreck good accuracy, such as poor bedding, stock flex, stock contact points, poor rifling finish, inaccurate chamber reaming, etc., but there is still a lot of witchery involved. A lot of this may be due to barrel harmonics, and some manufacturers just get it right, it seems. The things that tend to contribute to good accuracy are well known now, so most all manufacturers adhere to them, and overall rifle accuracy seems to be on the rise compared to 100 years ago or so. Add to all this the question of where one draws the line between hunting and live-game target shooting . . . one should always conduct one's game shots to their sphere of comfort between rifle/ammo/accuracy/energy/bullet construction/game position/game size/game construction/shooting position/weather conditions/lighting . . . you get the picture.
 
All the people I know who have tikkas rate them highly. My 243 has shot 0.75 MOA with federal blue box. My Brownings (270 7mmRM, 375 H&H all xbolts) don't shoot anything like that well. 1.5 MOA would be more realistic. I had a remington 770 once... It didn't group it patterned.
 
Seeing as you posted this under hunting and sporting arms, I'd say there's far too much emphasis attributed to group size in the last few years. Any of the current offerings are more than adequate for hunting accuracy and more time should be spent becoming proficient at shooting from hunting positions.
I don't choose the rifle that's the most accurate for the lowest price, but rather a combination of many things, including fit, finish and aesthetics along with what I consider acceptable accuracy for hunting, which is probably a lot less than many consider acceptable.

Usually it's not the arrow, but rather the Indian that results in a miss.

:agree: I heartily concur.

If a new or used rifle has useful appeal to me & is cost effective to tweak, then I have no worries with it. I'm
more than satisfied with hunting accuracy of 2-3"@ 100 yds. for a medium to big game rifle, seeing that I don't take shots on food beyond that range generally.

For varmints and such I'm happy with 1" & under at the same distance with center fires. :)
 
+1 on Tikka....my 30-06 is my go to rifle now for a reason.

i have never shot a Ruger M77 mkII that would not shoot.

Now if only i could fix the nut behind the trigger. Its not usually the arrow, most often misses in hunting are because of the Indian....and the uncontrolled setting, as compared to the range.
 
Secondhand market count?

The discontinued and budget priced Remington 788 series from 1967-1985 have a solid reputation for very good out of box accuracy.

I have two of them, one in 222 and another in 308. Both are stellar killing machines.
 
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