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I’m 66, my grandson is coming five. I want to leave him something special. This is the start, Defiance Tenacity action, Benchmark .308 5r barrel with a light Palma contour, Triggertech primary trigger. Waiting for the barrel to come in, then forwarded for furthering the build and cerakoting. Still not sure about the bottom metal or the stock. I have a Leupold VX6 scope waiting to put on the rifle, it has never been used. He already shoots when sitting between his fathers knees with his little single shot .22. I am hoping to be there for his first hunt with this rifle and likely will be. My wife hunts as do both of my sons and the little guys mother. Tradition, it counts.

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I would suggest a lighter caliber and a lighter barrel - one he can enjoy right from the start and in his old age... a 260 or 7mm 08 with lighter bullets... and a 2-7 scope...
 
I like what guntech is saying, 260 and lighter barrel. Your going to go with a premium action and pipe, why not go cheap with a shorter LOP stock like a laminate Boyd's and then later when he's grown something full length and fancier. With something like a Boyd's you get a bit heavier stock maybe, which will be nice for recoil, and later in life a wildcat and he's got a premium mountain rig hunter.

If you are going defiance and benchmark for your grandson, I'm sure you've got a heavier target rifle for that purpose. I guess my point is it's easier to go with a lighter rifle for youth, then a heavyweight target/hunting setup, which i think is where guntech was probably headed.

Edit: I see you you have made up your mind already, do what suits ya.
 
308 is super flexible if you handload.

You can run 110 gr TTSX's for deer sized game at a minimum load for ballpark 3000 fps. Recoil is very light - on paper its pretty much the same as a 7mm-08 with the same weigh bullet and a min load.

Lots of other options as well to handload a 308 to make it very kid friendly.
 
308 is super flexible if you handload.

You can run 110 gr TTSX's for deer sized game at a minimum load for ballpark 3000 fps. Recoil is very light - on paper its pretty much the same as a 7mm-08 with the same weigh bullet and a min load.

Lots of other options as well to handload a 308 to make it very kid friendly.
Tks. My son already home loads for his, this will be very similar to his, the only difference may be the stock and bottom metal, and we can change out those items as he grows.
 
I like what guntech is saying, 260 and lighter barrel. Your going to go with a premium action and pipe, why not go cheap with a shorter LOP stock like a laminate Boyd's and then later when he's grown something full length and fancier. With something like a Boyd's you get a bit heavier stock maybe, which will be nice for recoil, and later in life a wildcat and he's got a premium mountain rig hunter.

If you are going defiance and benchmark for your grandson, I'm sure you've got a heavier target rifle for that purpose. I guess my point is it's easier to go with a lighter rifle for youth, then a heavyweight target/hunting setup, which i think is where guntech was probably headed.

Edit: I see you you have made up your mind already, do what suits ya.
Thanks for the input, we already have everything bought and most of it has arrived. Both your and guntech’s advice is appreciated and relevant, but the purpose of the thread is that I want to leave my grandson a high quality firearm, even if he has to grow into it. I have lighter calibres he can use if need be.
 
Excellent idea Titan. It is a wonderful gift, and it also reinforces the fact that firearm ownership in Canada is a part of our heritage today, and must continue into the future. A heritage right to be both honoured and respected, what better way than through inheritance. Kudos.
 
I see what you're doing and I greatly appreciate it. As the owner of an "inheritance rifle" let me offer you a few thoughts.

Long before my father passed I knew all the guns in his safe. Some came and went while others were there from the beginning. Two of those "lifetimers" were a Winchester Model 21 with fine wood and years of wear, and a custom 7mm Wby my father had built in 1961 and used as his main hunting rifle over the years. Sure, he hunted with others, but this was one that he had made specifically for himself and treasured beyond the others. When the time came that my brother and I had to split up Dad's guns, I made a list of all the guns and rank-ordered them to what I wanted the most. He had decided that he wanted us to draw straws for first pick, but that the second person would get picks 2 and 3 and then start alternating. Now he had all kinds of expensive rifles at were very high quality, a Shiloh Sharps and a RMR built 7RM in a McMillan stock. By all metrics those guns should have been at the top of the heap, because of their build quality and value. But in the end I knew that there was only one that I wanted out of that safe and I ended up doing some wheeling and dealing with my brother to get it. I gave my brother the first pick in a exchange for Dad's safe and I took picks 2 and 3. My brother took the Model 21, which I would have loved to have too, and I took the old BSA-actioned 7Wby. Sure, it wasn't a blueprinted custom LR rifle nor was it a custom BPCR rig, but it was the rifle that he had used and carried all over during his time in BC. That was why I wanted it.

So the point of my story is that, while you have a great vision in your head for what is undoubtedly a high quality rifle, do not be surprised if your grandson decides that he would prefer one that you had used and treasured rather than an unused safe queen.

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BigUglyman. I have two sons, my older son while he comes out with me isn’t really into it and I don’t think he has a desire to take any of my firearms, other than one I bought him for his 14th birthday. He has shown a desire to have a special print I have and he will get that. My younger son, father to my only grandson whom I am building the rifle for is an archer, firearms enthusiast and a very good hunter. He and my grandson will likely get all of my firearms, some old and some new. But the reason for the custom build is that I want him to have something that grandpa built just for him. I have no doubt there are others he may treasure, but I wanted to have one built for him just to show him how much he means to me. My other grandchildren are all granddaughters and don’t show any inclination at this point to being interested, they will get something else which hopefully will hold meaning for them. Money doesn’t mean anything in the greater scheme of things, but he will be able to look at this even if he doesn’t use it often and know how much he means / meant to me when the time comes. Glad you know why this is being done, some others while giving helpful suggestions actually missed the point of why I am doing this, although all the comments have been respectful, you and one or two others hit the nail on the head. Thanks.
 
I think that's great what you're doing for your grandson Titan. I bought my wife's grandson (who I consider my grandson as well) a Marlin 60 when he was ten. He already had a pellet gun for a couple years which I taught him gun safety, proper handling and shooting with. Before he even had the pellet gun, he had honestly read the p.a.l book a dozen times, and he actually asked to read it.
After getting him the 22, he put thousands of rounds through it while it was still stock and was a very good shot.
After reading alot of articles on accuracy of marlin 60 and different aftermarket parts to further improve accuracy he asked if we could upgrade to a Boyds laminate stock.
I let him pick stock and better scope. We also put a champion bipod and mcarbo trigger spring kit in, which turned the rifle into a tack driver. He could consistently pick off empty shotshells at 50 yds and even hit empty 22 shells 50-60% of the time. I'll never forget how happy it made him that I let him make all the upgrade decisions, and he was so proud the accuracy that rifle had and his decisions made that happen.
Unfortunately they moved to the city and he's lost all interest. I've tried getting him to come up lots of times to shoot, and been telling him I'd pay for him to take hunting and firearms safety course, but like I said, he has no interest anymore. I'm really hoping eventually that he decides to take up hunting and shooting, but I'm not going to push him into it either.
 
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Feels good to know that you have something to leave your children and/or grandchildren.
While I plan on being here for a long while yet, I have told my daughter which firearms she gets, and if/when she has children, which rifles will go to them.
She is excited about that.
She is more into her horses and rodeo, but still asks to go shooting or hunting every now and then, and bought herself her first 22LR this past Christmas. About 5 years ago, Ibought her, her first centerfire rifle, and we took several different rifles chambered in various cartridges (260 Rem, 7mm-08, 270 Win, 338 Federal and 358 Win; the latter which she harvested her first deer with) to the range in order for her to make her decision. At the end of the day, she chose a used Remington 700 Titanium in 270 Winchester. While she wants to hunt deer and moose, her main goal is elk. She shot it well, producing 1" groups at 100 yards with Federal Fusion ammo. It has a Leupold VX III 3.5-10x40 mounted on it. While I made recommendations, she chose the rifle, ammo and scope herself.

Colonel, you may be surprised, he may come back asking to go shooting after his new lifestyle and friends wear off a bit. It happened with my daughter. They may overlook it for a while, but I do not think that they truly forget those special times and memories.
 
I see what you're doing and I greatly appreciate it. As the owner of an "inheritance rifle" let me offer you a few thoughts.

Long before my father passed I knew all the guns in his safe. Some came and went while others were there from the beginning. Two of those "lifetimers" were a Winchester Model 21 with fine wood and years of wear, and a custom 7mm Wby my father had built in 1961 and used as his main hunting rifle over the years. Sure, he hunted with others, but this was one that he had made specifically for himself and treasured beyond the others. When the time came that my brier and I had to split up Dad's guns, I made a list of all the guns and rank-ordered them to what I wanted the most. He had decided hat he wanted us to draw straws for first pick, but that the second person would get picks 2 and 3 and then start alternating. Now he had all kinds of expensive rifles at were very high quality, a Shiloh Sharps and a RMR built 7RM in a McMillan stock. By all metrics those guns should have been at the top of the heap, because of their build quality and value. But in the end I knew that there was only one that I wanted out of that safe and I ended up doing some wheeling and dealing with my brother to get it. I gave my brother the first pick in a exchange for Dad's safe and I took picks 2 and 3. My brother took the Model 21, which I would have loved to have too, and I took the old BSA-actioned 7Wby. Sure, it wasn't a blueprinted custom LR rifle nor was it a custom BPCR rig, but it was the rifle that he had used and carried all over during his time in BC. That was why I wanted it.

So the point of my story is that, while you have a great vision in your head for what is undoubtedly a high quality rifle, do not be surprised if your grandson decides that he would prefer one that you had used and treasured rather than an unused safe queen.

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Nicely put, and I fully agree.
 
I got the firearm back from the gunsmith in Lloydminster today, InSite Arms, just beautiful, I have decided he will get this firearm which I had engraved with his name, but I will be getting him a .243 Sako Finnlight to start him hunting with. I realize this is an old thread but just felt like updating it as there was some very good advice which I have now heeded.
 
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