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Hi there.. great forum from what I have read so far... I have recently become the owner of several guns a couple of which I am trying to ID and find the value of.

1 - Darne 12gauge, this is a beautiful double barrel, sliding breach. I have all the letters from the original purchaser (1937) and the replies from Darne when he ordered the gun. (including an original Darne catalogue from the time). I know it is a valuable gun, but would like to know just how much? Does anyone know of a good appraiser?

2 - Soviet M91/30, is the date under the mfg mark the date of production? I assume so.. I think I have this one pretty much figured out.. and from what I can tell it not particularly valuable... plenty of them around surplus..

3- US Rifle 1917 as per the markings,.. but a bit tougher to completely identify because the stock is not original, I know they were not originally a 30-06 but that is about as much as I know..

The rest of the collection is a couple of pump shotguns and several 22's.

Tried to get some help at a gun shop in edmonton.. but there were only interested in helping me if I was buying a gun from them... wont ever go back to that store for any supplies or accessories..

I would like to get some help on what is valuable and worth keeping and what to get rid of..

Any help greatly appreciated .. I will post some pics as I get some good ones..

Thanks
 
jetdoc, why are your posts at "0" when you have one?

Oh, and you will get no help here unless you post pics ;) (*edit* I missed where you stated that at the bottom) :p
(They're worth a thousand words) :D
 
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Hello, and welcome. Your Darne is obviously just that. Although I don't know much about long guns (collect handguns), it looks really outstanding. The Soviet rifle seems to be a Moisin-Nagant, but you said you'd pretty much figured it out, and the US 1917 sounds like the Enfield (not the SMLE) from WWI. It sounds as though you have everything pretty well in hand. This site is very strong on photos, to be sure, but there are plenty who'll try to help with whatever you have. I would suggest, though, that if you don't send photos (I can't and always have to ask people to email me), send calibers and other details to help. Enjoy the site. There's a lot of information here.
 
There is a dealer in Thorsby AB just a little South West of Edmonton,he is also a member online with us Bill Bracher drop him a line he will look at them for you.
 
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The others are of no consequence compared to the Darne, what model and what condition? Most Darnes in good cond. go from $1500 to over $5000 for the higher grades, there may be far higher prices but I have never seen the guns, so can't comment!
 
jetdoc said:
Hi there.. great forum from what I have read so far... I have recently become the owner of several guns a couple of which I am trying to ID and find the value of.

1 - Darne 12gauge, this is a beautiful double barrel, sliding breach. I have all the letters from the original purchaser (1937) and the replies from Darne when he ordered the gun. (including an original Darne catalogue from the time). I know it is a valuable gun, but would like to know just how much? Does anyone know of a good appraiser?

2 - Soviet M91/30, is the date under the mfg mark the date of production? I assume so.. I think I have this one pretty much figured out.. and from what I can tell it not particularly valuable... plenty of them around surplus..

3- US Rifle 1917 as per the markings,.. but a bit tougher to completely identify because the stock is not original, I know they were not originally a 30-06 but that is about as much as I know..

The rest of the collection is a couple of pump shotguns and several 22's.

Tried to get some help at a gun shop in edmonton.. but there were only interested in helping me if I was buying a gun from them... wont ever go back to that store for any supplies or accessories..

I would like to get some help on what is valuable and worth keeping and what to get rid of..

Any help greatly appreciated .. I will post some pics as I get some good ones..

Thanks
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If for any reason you don't want this collection, feel free to PM :)

Welcome to the boards :)
 
http://www.gournetusa.com/forum/
http://www.fusildarne.com/


Try this fourm for Darne info. Mr Gournet is the current US importer and seems to know quite a bit about them.

I purchased a nice little 28 ga about 5 years ago, $3700 US, used, then managed to locate the gentleman who imported them based on barrel stampiings. I described it to him , told him the price which he thought was good and he then told me I would never replace it for that price. I later got a brief catalog from the then current importer up in Minnesota, a Ted Schieflben(Spelling I know is wrong) and found a new Darne in my grade would be 12-13,000. They are expensive guns, expensive and difficult to repair, but extremely strong, strong enough to be chambered in some big African rifle cartridges.

The second link is to the French Darne company

I think they are some of the most delightful shotguns made, and in my 63 years have only seen 4, one of which is mine. Prounce the name as darn.

Another nice French sliding breech is the Charlin (pronounced Charlie), not as strong as the Darne because it locks up differently. The action of the Charlin is so smooth as to be almost unbelievable. The sliding breech on it rides on spring loaded ball bearings. I lucked upon this one at a nearby gun show where they were trying to call it a Darne. I had read enough and there is not much info out there, to know what it was and wound up getting it for half of their asking price..

Good luck with it, if you are interested in shotguns I would reccomend keeping it as they are relatively rare this side of the Atlantic, and currently very expensive. You have a good gun, no excellent gun there, probably on par with some of the higher grade British doubles.

Another forum where I have found good info on these is here.

http://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

Good luck, hope you enjoy it.
 
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"...not originally a 30-06..." The U.S. Rifle Pattern 1917 was. (It's brother, the Pattern 14, was chambered in .303 British.) Sounds like your P17 has been 'sporterized'. No collector value, but it's a dandy hunting rifle. There is tons of info about 'em on-line.
Your Mosin Nagant uses 7.62 x 54Rimmed as I'm sure you know. It'd make a good hunting rifle too. Lots of on-line info about them too.
"...have all the letters from the original purchaser (1937) and the replies from Darne when he ordered the gun. (including an original Darne catalogue from the time)..." Don't know squat about Darne shotguns, but the stuff you have with it will increase its collector value.
 
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