Install a Peep Sight or Learn to shoot Buckhorns ya rookie!

time4t said:
Peep sights will serve you well. No need to focus on the hole, look at the front post and target, and your eye will take care of the centering. You can achieve excellent accuracy with a good peep and post.
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That's it! The problem with open sights is it is impossible to focus on a rear sight, a front sight, and a target any number of yards away, all at the same time. Just look through the aperture, focus on the front sight, and align it with the slightly out of focus target.

anglia2 said:
I like peep sights , but I'm pushing sixty now and the eyes aren't what they used to be . When I could see , 2 inch 100 yard groups with an accurate rifle and aperture sights weren't too hard to manage , buck horns would usually double that . I wish I could still use peep sights , but I've switched to fixed low power or low power variables instead , biology demands it .
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It gets better as you get older. ;)

Ted
 
Thanks for all the advice gang, looking at grabbing a set of Skinner rear peeps and a new front blade style sight from them to try out. Just working on figuring out what height of front sight to grab from them to work with the rear peep.
 
I'd suggest buying the tallest one and filing it down to work, you can always remove more but you can't add height.

Ask me how I know, I have a wide collection of "wrong height'' fiber optic front blades. They'll fit something some day
 
Mike112288 said:
I’m not one for lying. I had a Belgium browning bar 30-06 with some super nice irons on it. I could shoot a 3 shot group at 100 around the 1/2” -5/8” mark. If the sights r right I can do wel with irons. Especially peep sights! More fun than a scope I gotta say
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Ummmm...... k.....


OP, not all irons work for everyone..... I can’t shoot a peep worth a damn and am so-so with a buckhorn setup..... but give me a ruger rs setup or a Remington factory setup and I will shoot minute of see vitals to 200 yards.... good luck with your quest..
 
Mike112288 said:
I’m not one for lying. I had a Belgium browning bar 30-06 with some super nice irons on it. I could shoot a 3 shot group at 100 around the 1/2” -5/8” mark. If the sights r right I can do wel with irons. Especially peep sights! More fun than a scope I gotta say
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Did you mean 100 feet???:rolleyes:
 
Why not? said:
That's it! The problem with open sights is it is impossible to focus on a rear sight, a front sight, and a target any number of yards away, all at the same time. Just look through the aperture, focus on the front sight, and align it with the slightly out of focus target.



It gets better as you get older. ;)

Ted
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Hi Ted , I'll bite , how does it get better ?
 
Sights and sight pictures are definitely a personal thing.

I find full buckhorn's to be pretty close to a ghost ring for example but with a better ability to hold over with.
I also prefer small brass beads or fiber optic light tubes in other words a round front sight point over a square post.
I usually set my sights so I can hold the "dot" of the front sight right on target for what ever distance I want to sight in at.

For target shooting a true peep with a small diameter close to the eye does wonders for sure and helps focus the eyesight, barrel mounted aperture sights need to be a bit bigger and don't have the same effect but are also easy to shoot as you don't really need to concentrate too much on the rear sight.

By the sounds of it the OP, you are getting the same results at 100 as you got at 50, as others have pointed out the size and shape of the target gets more critical the further out you get.
In general with a good set up that I like and an accurate gun, it's an if I can see it........ I can hit it type situation. Obviously eye sight is also a factor.
 
Devlin said:
Good evening CGN


Recently picked myself up a Henry 45/70, lots of Youtube reviews led to curiosity getting the better of me and I had to see what all the fuss was about with this cartridge, I'm used to large calibres and have been shooting most of my adult life so the recoil component didn't put me off. I shoot a 375H&H without issue.

What I am struggling with is getting proficient with the buckhorn style iron sights, within 50 meters not too much trouble at all and am getting decent groups for this calibre within the 2-3 MOA range at that distance so fine for deer hunting which is the intended use primarily.

Get out to 100 yards and I am struggling to see the target and ensure I have a good 6 o'clock hold going and am holding in the same spot on a 6" in diameter bullseye my best group of the day was approx 4.25". Now I of course don't expect this to be a 1/4 minute precision lever gun with iron sights but I'm wondering what's considered "good" with this calibre and these sights?

Ammo used was Hornady LeverEvolution 326 grain FTX

I am considering putting a peep sight from Skinner sights on the rifle to see if that improves my groups at 100 yards and wondering what folks think of going that way? I do like the rifle a fair bit and it will see use in Northern Ontario most typically shots are less than 100 yards where we hunt but there is the occasional longer poke but this is meant to be a walking through the bush or deer drive gun.

Interested in your thoughts on whether a peep sight is worth the small investment to get better groups out of this setup.
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The true advantage of an aperture sight is that you only have to focus on the front sight and the target; as long as you can see through the aperture, you can be reasonably sure of having a correct cheek weld. An open sight requires you to constantly shift your focus between the rear sight, front sight and the target, so it lacks speed, and precision. A large aperture with a thin rim is very fast to use, and a small aperture provides very precise focus, but for a hunting rifle, the large aperture provides more than enough precision for most people.

I suggest trying not only an aperture sight, but also a rectangular post front sight. A bead sight has no index of elevation, but a wide flat top blade is used similarly to crosshair; the flat top becomes the horizontal wire, and the center of the post which is easily discerned by the human eye, is analogous to the vertical wire. Assume you are shooting at a bullseye target; do not use a 6:00 hold, hold dead center instead. The widest part of the bull appears is easy to judge against the flat top of the post, and any deviation from dead center will appear narrower against the post. The 6:00 hold will cause your groups to open up with small changes in light conditions, that is you will not be able to tell if the top of the front sight is into the bull or just under it. If you are concerned about blocking out the target with a center hold, try a sub 6:00 hold, where the top of the front sight is 4"-6" below the bull, but both the sight and the bull are in view.
 
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Mike112288 said:
I’m not one for lying. I had a Belgium browning bar 30-06 with some super nice irons on it. I could shoot a 3 shot group at 100 around the 1/2” -5/8” mark. If the sights r right I can do wel with irons. Especially peep sights! More fun than a scope I gotta say
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Great thread with added entertainment value.
 
Mike112288 said:
I’m not one for lying. I had a Belgium browning bar 30-06 with some super nice irons on it. I could shoot a 3 shot group at 100 around the 1/2” -5/8” mark. If the sights r right I can do wel with irons. Especially peep sights! More fun than a scope I gotta say
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That's pretty good shooting. I knew few guys that could do that with the FNC1 back in the day, two went on to earn the Queen's Medal for Champion Shot. It takes a high level of concentration one fellow used to go right into a zone where he could not hear and understand anything around him while taking a shot.
 
Drillbit said:
I've been putting Burris FastfireIII's on more and more things lately.
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The other reflex sight that looks interesting (but pricey) is the Trijicon with the amber triangle.

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I've put a white line (very narrow strip of Scotchlite reflective tape) on a couple of front blades - a home made XS sight- on a couple of front blades and find tht works pretty well.
 
Yes indeed it was with a bar. I was shocked too. Lol and I realize the way I worded it was kinda hilarious haha!

I put a NECG peep on my cz 527 carbine in 223. Hoping to test it out for groups on paper to see how accurate it is this way
 
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