Interest in Prone match?

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I was wondering if anybody would be interested if I were to run a prone match for the "Online Matches" as well. I am currently running a prone match over on another site and so far participation has been very good.

I am using the same target we use for the 100 Yard Unlimited. You can shoot at 25 yards without a sling or shooting jacket or at 50 yards with a sling and shooting jacket.

Comments?
 
I'm in...

How about a 3 position match... 10 rounds prone unsupported at 50m + 10 Rounds sitting at 25 or 50m and 10 rounds standing at 25m... Total score out of 300?

I am a big fan of natural shooting positions... and a bit of me feels like so much marksmanship is lost with bench rests...

EB
 
prone sounds interesting. I prefer 3-position or at least parts of it to unlimited. Benchresting is more for older guys.
 
ha! we were writing about 3-position at the same time. yeah, "300 total" would be ultimate fun match.
 
A prone match would be good. Not much of a 3P person myself though. My outdoor shooting will soon be coming to an end though. October tends to get a bit cold here in NS. To cold for good shooting that is. Will be moving inside.
 
Thanks for the comments guys.

I could maybe start up something - say a 3p match at 25 and a prone match at 50 or something similar like that.

I am wondering though - how many of you have shooting jackets and slings? There wouldn't be too much point of starting up a class where you could use jackets and slings (huge advantage) if only 1 or 2 are going to use the equipment and then the rest are stuck without it shooting against those people.

A 3p match does sound fun though - and I think 10 shots for each position would be good - nice and simple (as upposed to 40 or more shots which most competitions are).

EB: I do like your idea but you mention for 3p that we could do sitting. 3p is usually staning/prone/kneeling. Do you think we should do sitting instead of kneeling?
 
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Hi,

Well to start... I have a sling... but never use it... and would not use it if no one else had one...

As far as the positions... I like 25m for all 3... keeps it simple... but probably not much of a challenge for prone and sitting/kneeling... and I think sitting and kneeling are pretty much equivalent... so maybe it could be sitting OR kneeling?

As for timing... Winter is coming... maybe we could, as a group, try a bit of a pilot project this fall (try different targets, distances, etc) to see what works best as far as scoring and challenge, and go live with the competition next spring as a fresh start to a new season.

CZ452 Shooter, pm me your e-mail.... I have a couple targets in mind...

EB
 
way to go! 3p all at 25m is the way to do it, because it will make it possible to keep on shooting indoor all winter. To make it more challenging we can use smaller targets for prone and kneeling. I'd rather go for kneeling as its more or less official. Or we can have the same targets for all 3 positions, nothing wrong with that. It is known fact that the champion is the one who can shoot standing. No slings or jackets. Oh and important thing - shooting all 3 at 25m will bring everybody into the same league, there will be little or no advantage between 2000$ gun and 150$.
 
What about sights? I`m kinda interested and have a scoped .22 semi (my favorite gopher gun in my collection, :D) But I also came into possesion of a winchester 69A bolt with peep sights.
Is there going to be sight specific classes? Or does it really matter at 25 meters?
 
I am not sure of the actual difference between between 20yds and 25m. The indoor ranges here are 20yds. I am not sure what you all had in mind for targets, but I would go for the SFC or the DCRA targets. Mainly because that is what I shoot during the winter. I have a sling and jacket.
 
22lr said:
way to go! 3p all at 25m is the way to do it, because it will make it possible to keep on shooting indoor all winter. To make it more challenging we can use smaller targets for prone and kneeling. I'd rather go for kneeling as its more or less official. Or we can have the same targets for all 3 positions, nothing wrong with that. It is known fact that the champion is the one who can shoot standing. No slings or jackets. Oh and important thing - shooting all 3 at 25m will bring everybody into the same league, there will be little or no advantage between 2000$ gun and 150$.
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I think 25m is a good idea - possibly at even 20 yards. As you mentioned this would be good as it doesn't matter if you have a $200 or $2000 gun its more the shooter.

Rick65Cat said:
What about sights? I`m kinda interested and have a scoped .22 semi (my favorite gopher gun in my collection, :D) But I also came into possesion of a winchester 69A bolt with peep sights.
Is there going to be sight specific classes? Or does it really matter at 25 meters?
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I don't think it really matters at 25m. With peep sites using the right aperature/site setup genereally you can shoot nearly as good as a scope so why don't we just keep this either scope or peep sights - all in the same class.


p14shooter said:
I am not sure of the actual difference between between 20yds and 25m. The indoor ranges here are 20yds. I am not sure what you all had in mind for targets, but I would go for the SFC or the DCRA targets. Mainly because that is what I shoot during the winter. I have a sling and jacket.
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20 yards, as you mentioned might be a good idea as a lot of indoor ranges, including the one around here, is at 20 yards. The SFC targets sound good (as this is what I shoot for 50m competions) but I will try to find a target that will be suitable for 20 yards for a shooter without any shooting gear.


Rick65Cat said:
Got no sling, got no jacket...just wobbly hands and old eyes ;)
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:D

Sound like it might be better to have a class for those who don't have a sling or jacket. We could have two seperate classes I suppose.

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I have sling and jacket as well as pants, boots, iris, the whole works so it doesn't matter to me what we do as long as it appeals to everyone. Maybe once we have some more people respond we can get a good idea of what kind of equipment we are using and what target we should use, etc.

Jordan
 
Well, for simplicity's sake, I think that unless we have a large number of people with slings/jackets... we all just go without...

I don't think there's an appreciable difference between 20 and 25m... so we should all shoot what we have available to us... and scope/peeps/blade sights will not make a difference...

As far as targets... we should choose one that is able to discriminate between different skill levels... I think that a target that everyone hits the 10X is kinda boring... As a thought, we should try to find one where the average scores are around 250-260/300... this is the same principal as having tests in school... you have some easy questions... some hard ones... and most are in the middle... you can't tell who the good or bad or average students are if everyone scores in the high 90's... This is where the trial shoots will help.

Thoughts everyone?

EB
 
I saw a guy doing one of those on-line target shoots at the Genesee range. He must have stapled up at least a dozen or so 8 1/2 x 11 sheets that had 4 or 5 of the zombies from "dawn of the dead" on them. :D
Each zombie was maybe 3 or 4 inches tall and the head not quite the size of a dime. To score, each shot had to be a head shot. He was shooting on the 25 meter range
 
targets shouldn't be too small - door should be open for every skill level or we will have hard time competeing against no more than half a dosen shooties. On the same token there should be no slings or jackets. Lets do it and see what it looks like. Details may be honed later.
 
Well... CZ452Shooter... do you have a couple ideas for targets? Why don't we circulate one at a time over the next couple months... we can all try them at different ranges (20, 25, 50, whatever)... and report back with our scores, and what we thought of them... sight picture, bull size, etc... Should generate some discussion, then we can choose the best target as a group and open the competition, say, in the new year if most of us have access to an indoor range...

EB
 
Sorry for not posting :redface:

My thinking is: For 50 yards the 50 yard smallbore target you sent. For 25 or 20 maybe the ISSF match target with the scoring rings out to one. Or as you mentioned the 25 yard target we use might be allright. Only complaints is its not the best quality (too large pixes), its a bit small (not the 10 ring but the whole target isn't very big) and also it doesn't have an X ring. The 50 meter target you sent me would work really well I think.

I am not sure how to get those targets on line though. They are in PDF but maybe if someone knows how to get a PDF into a link that everybody could open up. I know of someone that might be able to do that for us. Will look into it and see if I can get the targets on here.

I think either 20 yards or 50 yards would be good. Advantage of 20 yards would be the fact that we could shoot indoors and you can also shoot outdoors at 20. At 50 we wouldn't be able to shoot indoors...

Once I figure out how to get those targets posted I will construct maybe 3 or 4 different sets of rules and we can see which one works best for us :)
 
I think the ones I sent you have a web site on them... where I downloaded them from... can we post a link to where the targets are like you have on the rules page?

EB
 
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