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I'm looking at Savage rifles in LH hunter series wood/blue in 7-08 for Haggis Jnr.
I'm limited as to what comes in LH and to find a rifle with also a detachable mag.is diffucult ( i know some of you do not like detachable mags,but i do)
What are your opinions for the internal box mag. for a youngster ?
He is 14 and very safe re handleing firearms.
 
I have a Savage with internal mag. The only problem is that you have to cycle the action to get the rounds out. I also noticed that about 5% of the time the bolt "skims" over the round instead of loading it, leaving you with an empty chamber and no follow up shot if needed.
 
todbartell said:
hinged floorplate is probably the best system...although 66% of my rifles are ADL blind magazine :)
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Without a doubt, the hinged floorplate is the best syetem IMHO. You rarely need to do quick magazine changes on a huitng rifle, an they are just one more thing to get dropped in the mud or squished and damaged.

Unless you move around in a vehicle form place to place ALOT, like severla times in a day, I don't even see any extra convenience.

It's up to you, but I would't buy the Savage just becuase it is detach mag.:)
 
I'm getting one with a detachable mag simply because I'm on and off the machines many times daily while hunting. If your going to get an internal mag I would go with the hindged floor plate, easy to unload, I have a ruger M77 with this system.
 
bearhunter said:
Does Remington still offer its aftermarket Qwik Clip kits? bearhunter
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they are still avaliable...made by a company called Trexler Industries....Wholesale Sports has them...about $125 now I think....


trexlerindustries.com
 
I've always had detachable "Magazines" and or "Floorplates on my Hunting rifles.......My New Titanium is of course the "Blind internal mag" type.
I'm actually growing very fond of it's simple no fuss design and like pointed out already I'm finding it to be in no way a hindrance nor inconvenience at all :)
 
Gatehouse said:
Without a doubt, the hinged floorplate is the best syetem IMHO. You rarely need to do quick magazine changes on a huitng rifle, an they are just one more thing to get dropped in the mud or squished and damaged.

Unless you move around in a vehicle form place to place ALOT, like severla times in a day, I don't even see any extra convenience.

It's up to you, but I would't buy the Savage just becuase it is detach mag.:)
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That's my point, the Savage does NOT have a detach. mag. it's the internal box system and this is why i was wondering about any dislikes/problems with this type of system for a youngster.
I had a Browning for my first rifle in 270 with the detach. clip on the hinged floor plate, and i must say i really took a dislike to it after a while. So much so,that, that was the reason i sold it.
 
Haggis, It is no secret I dislike detachable magazines as they are often lost and occasionally mis-function. Like Clarke I prefer to have a hinged floor-plate on my hunting rifles but am not hung up on it and in fact presently own all three types. A blind magazine should not be a hindrance for a young shooter. The act of loading and unloading it will give him familiarity with the rifle as well as reinforce good gun handling habits.

The only downside to to this type of magazine is if you happen to have a rifle with a standing ejector - the older Savages with the cir-clip extractor are an example of this. If you use a lot of force unloading the rifle and drive a loaded cartridge against the ejector often enough it can get peened and/or broken. Cycle the rounds slowly however and everything should be OK.
 
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I dislike Detachable magazines. They get lost at the most inopportune times, they get dropped in the mud or snow, they gather lint and other undesirable things from your pocket or elsewhere, which then impairs their function, or worse, gets introduced to the chamber of your rifles when the a cartridge is fed from it, they get dropped and the feed lips get bent, causing feeding woes. :mad: On top of that, some of them are mighty costly, should one lose or damage it beyond repair. :eek: I prefer hinged floorplates by a large margin, with blind magazines taking second place. That being said, I do have one rifle [M700 SSDM]with a detachable Magazine. I would have disposed of it a long time ago....except....it just happens to be about the most accurate production rifle I have ever owned, and I'm doubtful that I could find another so good. Therefore it will stay in the fold, DM be damned!! However, whatever one prefers is fine, it's just good to review the downside of some systems. :D Regards, Eagleye.
 
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The quality of whatever system I choose is just as important as my personal preference.

Detachable mags are awesome if they're simple and positive in function but if they fall out easily :rolleyes: or it requires two hands and a guy with a crowbar to get out it's just another inconvenience. (I've owned both, BTW. ;) ) Same goes for any system.

Having said that, I don't like internal box magazines and have no intention of getting familiar with one. But if it's a good quality system that feeds reliably and functions positively I'm sure your boy will do great with it. :)
 
I have the savage 270WSM and the 300WSM in the 16FXP3 and they are extremely accurate out of the box I haven't had any problems cycling shells with them My .17HMR is another story though. I would recommend this gun even with the internal clip it works great.If you are really stuck on a detachable clip I would look at the Tikka T3
 
I've found that the only trouble I've ever had with an internal mag was when it was fully loaded. I will only load two in the mag when hunting with an internal mag.
 
todbartell said:
I dont think Remington ever offered them, they were made by a company called 'Kwik Clip'?? :confused:
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Hey I put one of these in my model 700 BDL a few years back after my hinged floorplate magazine f**ked up on me and cost me a buck of a lifetime.Ripped that hinged magazine out right quick and put in the kwik clip bought an extra magazine and haven't had a problem since.I definately prefer a clip.
 
[QUOTE='Boo]Haggis, It is no secret I dislike detachable magazines as they are often lost and occasionally mis-function. Like Clarke I prefer to have a hinged floor-plate on my hunting rifles but am not hung up on it and in fact presently own all three types. A blind magazine should not be a hindrance for a young shooter. The act of loading and unloading it will give him familiarity with the rifle as well as reinforce good gun handling habits.

The only downside to to this type of magazine is if you happen to have a rifle with a standing ejector - the older Savages with the cir-clip extractor are an example of this. If you use a lot of force unloading the rifle and drive a loaded cartridge against the ejector often enough it can get peened and/or broken. Cycle the rounds slowly however and everything should be OK.[/QUOTE]
:D Both 'You and Clarke' are often lost and occasionally mis-function also but what the hell, that's OK too :p
I like your answer re-the fact that a blind mag. will give a young shooter 'familiarity' with his gun.
Also,as 'PEI ROB' stated, only have 2 in the mag. when hunting.
I'm not adverse to a blind mag. i wanted to be sure that it would not be a problem for a young shooter :)
Thanks for your input.
 
haggisbasher said:
:D Both 'You and Clarke' are often lost and occasionally mis-function also ..........
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Yes - but ...................... well ............................

OK, I guess it is hard to argue with the truth. :cool:
 
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