Invector + chokes, Diamond vs Diana vs Midas?

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I'm trying to make sense of Browning's choke options, and there's very little information out there about what is the difference between the Diamond grade and the Diana grade. Midas are clearly good too but a bit 'below' those two in the line up.

I know it's not the choke's fault my clays don't always break... but I'm looking to buy some more chokes for my Citori and don't mind paying a small bit extra for the best available. Diamond grade cost a little more than the Diana, but are they actually better? Anyone have experience with them out there and are happy with the result?

Thanks for sharing your wisdom!
 
Midas chokes are stainless steel with black oxide finish.
Diana chokes are stainless with some special heat treatment they say prior to machining to give more uniform patterns and have a titanium nitride coating.
Diamond chokes are the same as the Diana chokes but they claim a longer taper, but god knows what that does.

I have and shot all three and like the ones with the titanium coating only because they clean easier I don't see any pattern differences
Cheers
 
I’m not a fan of how the Midas chokes look. I have a full set of Diana’s in 12g and a few Diamond grade in 20g. I cant say they function better or worse than the others. To me they all shoot the same. I just prefer the looks of the Diana and Diamond grades.

As SJ mentioned, Briley chokes are good. I also have a set of Carlson extended chokes that work well. No need to stick to the Browning chokes as they don't really offer an advantage over aftermarket chokes
 
As I understand it, Briley made all of Browning's Invector and Invector Plus chokes.
Apparently a French company is contracted to make the Invector DS chokes for Browning.
Briley also makes aftermarket Invector DS chokes.
 
I've had Briley, Angle Port, Browning, Beretta, Perrazi and a bunch of others and in my opinion, Muller is the best with Teague a close second. Factory Browning chokes are good enough for the most part but if I'm buying chokes then I would put my money into a better product. The Muller Feather weights that I have pattern with absolutely no hot spots with most ammo and that is something you don't see often.
 
In answer to the original question, 3macsI has the correct answer in post #3. The differences are primarily cosmetic, smart marketing. If one type has a smoother more highly polished interior it will collect less wad residue and burnt powder making it quicker and easier to clean. This is an advantage to me. I also have found Briley chokes to be better in this regard than most factory original chokes.
 
Falconflyer said:
I've had Briley, Angle Port, Browning, Beretta, Perrazi and a bunch of others and in my opinion, Muller is the best with Teague a close second. Factory Browning chokes are good enough for the most part but if I'm buying chokes then I would put my money into a better product. The Muller Feather weights that I have pattern with absolutely no hot spots with most ammo and that is something you don't see often.
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I had never tried Muller, until I purchased a used Blaser that came with some stainless Muller chokes. They pattern very well, and build less wad fouling than most other chokes, but what I noticed most, if that tightened by hand, they never come loose, yet they are easily removed by hand. They are expensive, but they are an excellent product.
 
stubblejumper said:
I had never tried Muller, until I purchased a used Blaser that came with some stainless Muller chokes. They pattern very well, and build less wad fouling than most other chokes, but what I noticed most, if that tightened by hand, they never come loose, yet they are easily removed by hand. They are expensive, but they are an excellent product.
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Not a fan of the extended choke look on an O/U. The Muller's look especially horrid. The latest flush chokes pattern better than anyone can shoot.
 
Ashcroft said:
In answer to the original question, 3macsI has the correct answer in post #3. The differences are primarily cosmetic, smart marketing. If one type has a smoother more highly polished interior it will collect less wad residue and burnt powder making it quicker and easier to clean. This is an advantage to me. I also have found Briley chokes to be better in this regard than most factory original chokes.
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One thing I cannot prove is they say the diamond are made in Japan and the rest in USA
No one will confirm
Cheers
 
Thanks for all the input so far everyone!

3macs1 said:
One thing I cannot prove is they say the diamond are made in Japan and the rest in USA
No one will confirm
Cheers
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I say with 100% certainty that the Diamond are made in USA by Briley. It says so right on the package I'm holding now. I believe the Diana grade are also USA and by Briley, but don't have one of those here to check.
 
Rally_Driver said:
Thanks for all the input so far everyone!



I say with 100% certainty that the Diamond are made in USA by Briley. It says so right on the package I'm holding now. I believe the Diana grade are also USA and by Briley, but don't have one of those here to check.
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Thank you. I think I got that wrong and should have said the Browning diamond grade chokes
Cheers
 
3macs1 said:
Thank you. I think I got that wrong and should have said the Browning diamond grade chokes
Cheers
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No that's exactly what I was holding, a Browning Diamond Grade Invector-Plus choke, on the back of the packaging it says "Made exclusively for Browning by Briley" and "Made in USA".
 
Westward1 said:
Not a fan of the extended choke look on an O/U. The Muller's look especially horrid. The latest flush chokes pattern better than anyone can shoot.
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I actually like the look of the extended chokes. But what I like best is that the extended chokes offer some protection to the muzzle....even if its just from sliding a gun inside a case....saves the barrel from some bluing loss
 
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