IPSC... best production class gun???

[Zaitsev]

there is a reason bullseye pistols are heavier, it minimizes the shooters involuntary movements (ie: heart beat, generally body movement, etc.) which may not show up under 7yards, but anything at distance the results can be dramatic.

I never thought of that but it make a whole lot of sense!!!
Guess you have just taken out the last doubt that I had of getting a CZ SP-01 Shadow to replace my Glock 22 as my production gun.
Thanks...or not. Because of you, I'll spend more money...again

 

[ruger22]

thabks...

In terms of ammo she shoots reloads, 124 grain Montana Gold CMJ over 4.4 grains of W231. They're about a 135 power factor (so about 1090 fps average).

If you're going to be at the next IPSC Alberta Qualifier (this weekend at Olds) we'll be there, you can give the trigger pull of my wife's a try at the safe table if you want. There's only a handful of women and if I remember right only two in Production this weekend, the other shoots a Glock so just ask for the one who shoots a Shadow.

I know what load to start with. I have some 231 and 124 FMJ.
4.2g failed to cycle 100% of the time with 4.2g on a cold day with my XD9.
Too busy working to make the match, dam Alberta thing

Are 124 FMJ's a popular choice?

 

[maurice]

no problem. Glad to help LOL, spend -spend! I have only been involved for about 4 years in IPSC, but I try and listen to more experienced shooters, and try to learn. things that cut time off stages at the beginning like draws, mag changes, movement, work on steel,.etc,,all help as well. than we get into target math, movement, hit factor, transitions and splits. Every firearm I have used has its weaknesses. Just make sure it runs well, nothing more fustrating than seeing a good shooter use a firearm that flatlines,...good or properly loaded ammo helps keep it running.

 

[96Brigadier]

I know what load to start with. I have some 231 and 124 FMJ.
4.2g failed to cycle 100% of the time with 4.2g on a cold day with my XD9.
Too busy working to make the match, dam Alberta thing

Are 124 FMJ's a popular choice?

Typically you want a heavier bullet with faster powder, so a 147 grain bullet is probably better. I shoot Open and use 124 grain bullets though and since I'm the one making all the ammo and I don't feel like risking mixing 124 grain bullets with 147 grain bullets my wife gets to shoot the 124's There's nothing wrong with your 124 grain FMJ's though.

 

[omen]

it is very important to have a gun which "feel" just right. Yes, I know, that's VERY subjective, but it's different for everyone.

You need a gun that's reliable, but once a gun gets "good enough" on the technical side, the fit is very personal. How it sits in your hand, how it feels when it fires, how it feels when it points, how big your hands are, etc. Yes, small technical details can make a small difference, but you wouldn't choose a gun which saves you 0.1s on a recoil/second shot but feels like crap in your hand, because you'll lose much more than you'll gain...

For anyone up to pretty close to the "top" levels (and that's always relative, right, so top to whatever level you want to be) the fit is more important than the tiny differences.. But once you start getting to the point where every little bit makes a difference, then you'll want to see what other guns there are which might feel as good as yours, AND will give you some savings...

Some guns to try are the cz-75 SP01, whatever the latest production Tanfoglio gun(s) is/are, if you don't like the SA/DA aspect than the Glock or the M&P5 or the XD... Some people really like Berettas, Baby Eagles, etc...
It's all personal.. haha, I mean, the first time I won the Ont provincial championship I think I was shooting a $300 chinese norinco POS, haha, but it worked for me.

So try some of the traditional guns mentioned by the people above, see if you really like any one of those, and just go with that. If not, keep looking...

The CZs have the most factory prod-legal customizations available, I THINK, but I'd imagine tanfoglio isn't far behind... Just remember, it must be reliable... It doesn't do you any good to save 0.15s on some shots, if you'll get a 5-8s jam every now and again

 

[flinter]

Just keep in mind that out of the box the SP01 is good but most guys replace some of the parts to make it better (recoil spring and main spring for sure, potentially the hammer too, grips if you want to make them thinner).

Be carefull what you change on a Production gun if you want to stay in Production