IPSC Black Badge accuracy test

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Hi there,
I am planning to take Black Badge course sometimes this year hopefully, I know I'll need to do an accuracy test, so what are the requirements?
I read it somewhere but can't find it now...
I remember it said to put a 10rds group at 25m or something. Is this correct? What size of the group? Two hands i assume?
I can reliably produce accurate 6" at 25m right now with my new M&P9, not sure if it's good enough and how much work i still need to put into it.

Thank you.

P.S. I've yet to see any single person at my club shooting handgun at 25m other than myself... But I see a LOT of ppl slow shooting 5m every week. What I am missing here?
 
I did mine a few months ago, there was one guy who was shooting 18 inch groups at 10 yards :)
At the end of the day, he was doing good enough to pass.

There’s practice info on the IPSC/ Black Badge website.

It’s not that difficult.

As for the 5 yard shooting..
Maybe practicing for close combat?
Or reallly really tight groups?

Lol

Seriously though, there are a lot of targets that are close to you, maybe less than 5 yards.
And only partial Target showing.
So accuracy is important there.
Maybe they’re practicing for those.
It’s a good way to make up time.

And the biggest thing ,for me,was making sure my triggerfinger was always outside the guard, while moving, mag changes on the move,etc.
 
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Believe the 10 round accuracy test for the BB Was on a 8 1/2 X 11” target. So you should be fine with yer current 6” group proficiency at 25 metres.

Suggest you don’t concern yourself to much with speed at this early point. This is a mistake many newbies make. Instead keep working on your accuracy at various distances as you will often encounter paper and small steel or poppers targets at distance, which is what give many competitors problems.

While you are at it suggest you spend fair amount of time on your weak and strong hand only shooting....and any other weaknesses you may have. Trigger finger discipline is also extremely important. If you can become proficient in these areas it will help with yer overall accuracy and Ultimately your match performance.
 
You're good. From Murray Gardner's site (he's a co-founder of IPSC Canada):

- be able to hit a 8.5"X 11" paper at 20m at your own time, with your pistol, 9/10 times

Re: 5m slow fire: It has a ton of value. Depends on what you want to work on. I work from 3 yds to 20 yds, different size/type targets, different drills, all the time.
 
You need to know your gun. If double action to single action after first shot. Can you decoack it, can you draw and shoot the first shot double action and hit the target. A lot of the course starts out from the holster. Can you load and make a gun ready and put it into a holster ever time. Many very basic things are not done at speed but must be done safely. Think about the actions and dry unloaded practice the actions.
Have you had the firearm for a long time, are you comfortable with all the buttons and levers.
Your ammo will NOT have to make power factor for the course. Good reliable ammo will save greif.
See if a club member who is into IPSC can look at your gear with a eye on passing the course, not winning the first match you enter.
 
6" group at 25yds? With your M&P 9mm with both hands on your own time? Sounds like you have a good handle on the fundamentals. You will do fine on the course, maybe even sacrifice a bit of accuracy to make the times. The big thing is the muzzle and trigger finger discipline.
 
Sochi said:
P.S. I've yet to see any single person at my club shooting handgun at 25m other than myself... But I see a LOT of ppl slow shooting 5m every week. What I am missing here?
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I know some exercises to perfect your trigger pull and grip that can be done between 2 and 7 meters. It may explain what you saw. A good one is the "Dot Torture". Try it, it's addictive!
 
6" group at 25m? Oh you ready for the BB, bruddah! Practice 10yrd strong arm and weak arm shooting. Read up on gear or ask questions if you're unsure so you buy right the first time unlike some (like myself) who bought the wrong holster to begin with. Get all your gear in advance of the course and practice safe drawing/holstering and mag changes etc.
 
Its going to be pretty tough to fail based on accuracy alone unless you literally cant hit the broad side of a barn. Its more about safety. Finger out of the trigger and direction of the firearm etc.
 
Trinimon said:
...practice safe drawing/holstering...
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Before you do that, read this post in this thread:

Freedom Ventures said:
What Mrclean said; also get very comfortable operating the controls of your firearm; mag release, slide lock.
Make sure the ammo you will attend the course with works perfectly.
Make sure your rig functions correctly, the holster & Mag Pouches allows for a smooth seating and removal of the gun & Mags.
Make sure your belt & the gear attached to it is going to be secure. (ie A 1" belt with 2" pant loops doesn't work. ;-) )

Leave the moving, mag changes and holster techniques to the BB instructor to show you the correct way.
It's harder to unlearn bad technique than learn the right technique.
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IPSC Basic Drills / Black Badge Prep
<https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1649281-IPSC-Basic-Drills-Black-Badge-Prep>
 
From an old hand at IPSC : as already stated by several ... the FIRST ISSUE is ALWAYS SAFETY ... when not actively shooting ... trigger finger ... outside the trigger guard (not just finger off the trigger) so the RO CAN PLAINLY SEE IT!!! AND the muzzle of the gun must be kept within 90 degrees of "downrange" ... these two issues cause most DSQ's

Tips for becoming "competitive":
PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE the draw sequence and "dry firing" with an unloaded pistol and initially do it in slow motion until the 5 point draw sequence becomes one continuous smooth motion. Then work in a mag change. Students used to quiz me about "my secret" for a good draw ... I'd refer back to the 5 point smooth draw ... but they would persist with wanting to know "my secret" ... I'd finally say ... "The secret is taking 2 hours each evening dry firing in the shop instead of watching TV ... AND shooting 60,000 rounds a year..."

Last piece of advice: First you get GOOD (accuracy) then you get FAST...which includes "running like Jack the Bear" when not actively shooting ... its called economy of motion....

Good Luck DVC
 
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