IPSC Clothes and Packs

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Taking my Black Badge course in August. Got most of my equipment. What I'm wondering about is clothing and bags. What do most of you guys use for shirts and pants, especially if the weather happens to be cold? How does it affect things like your draw and your ability to get a magazine out of its pouch?

Also, I've seen plenty a lot of folks at the range using a duffel bag, very few using any sort of backpack. Does anybody use a backpack to haul all their gear around?
 
For handgun only, I use a small backpack. Enough for all my ammo, mags, spare parts, ppe, basic tools and random supplies. For long gun events, my rifle bag has plenty of extra storage pockets. For pants, any cargo pants are alright. Shirts get tucked in, so they don't affect the draw, but polyester shirts have been popular in pretty much every sport out there because of the freedom of movement. They tend to be loose-fitting. Also mind the rule 5.3.2 (*)
5.3.2 - Competitors shirt must make the competitor resemble a minor crime figure from the former Soviet Union. Insufficiently attention-getting shirt will incur a procedural penalty for every shot fired by the competitor while wearing one


(*) Rule does not actually exist. This is a joke :cool:
 
I just took my BB course with Joey at the Spruce grove range in April, and despite snowing in the morning and getting a sunburn that afternoon, it was amazing!
Being bundled up didn't really hamper me, as I was lucky to have a tight windbreaker that fit over my hoodie and shirt and kept everything out of the way. My biggest PITA was a belt, I wish I had the double alpha belt before the course and not after.
I used a Allen range bag as it was what I really wanted, a knock off of the 5.11 tactical with fold down work station.

I also made the mistake of not having my pistol in a separate locked container, just trigger locked in a locked compartment, which meant dragging my whole range bag to the safety table to get it out and put it away. Now I have a mini pelican hardcase that fits just the pistol for this reason.

The downside of the backpack is having to stack what you need vertically, and with the amount of times you'll need to go in and get more ammo, that might be a pain, but depends on the type of pack you use and how good you are at tetris!

For pants I used a set of carhart cargo work pants from marks work warehouse ( $50? I think), as they were less stiff than jeans, had wider belt loops, tons of pockets and if it had rained I would have been okay in them.

Make sure you bring a set of gloves, you won't shoot in them, but if its frosty on the ground and you have to go over the exam outside first thing in the morning, you will be glad you have them!

amazon.ca/Allen-Company-Master-Tactical-Range/dp/B001TKEU60/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402674300&sr=8-1&keywords=allen+range

That is the range bag I use, it has free shipping, and has held up really well for me.

I used Howard Leight electronic hearing protection, as did a few other students, no complaints at all.

After the course I ended up spending the extra $ to get a actual double alpha academt belt, $60, and bladetech holster and mag holders ($110), but I took my course with a cheap fobus paddle holster ($24) and 4 tazmanian tiger soft pistol mag holders($11 each).
I still prefer the soft mag holders, as I am a bit more..ahem round, and the firm holders dug the mags into my roll a bit when moving, where as the soft ones had a bit more give but still fit the mags great. The belt I took with me was a duty belt from the surplus store in edmonton, was a waste of $35, the velcro was crappy and weak so my inner and outer kept seperating, so day 2 I went to walmart and bough the sturdiest belt they had, which was another 25. for the 60 I spent on 2 crappy belts, I should have just gone with the DAA one in the first place, but learned from it.

Also, make sure you have a upla mag loader, will save your fingers big time, and the quicker you reload your mags the fast you can shoot!

I've totally rambled, sorry! lol talking about the course still gets me all giddy from how much fun it was!
 
I use an oversized courier bag to carry everything. Things tend to roll around inside of it but it has enough specific pockets and sleeves to keep vital things separate. Clothes, waterproof jacket, water, pistol bag, ammo, snacks all fit in the main compartment. Having one main compartment that you can get to by just opening up the big flap cover is better than a backpack, though overall a courier bag is a bit bulky and if you are not careful with how high you strap it, it might knock out one of your mags from your belt.
 
I wear a lot of Underarmor.

On cold days:
Underarmor tee shirt, heavy underarmor long sleeve shirt and then a shooting shirt (Techwear) over top. I also have some running sleeves that I pull up onto my arms for extra layering. Think of them as leg warmers for your arms.
Underarmor compression shorts, underarmor long underwear and then convertible cargo pants.

Gloves and jacket when I'm not actively shooting, but take those off when I'm on the line. You're only not wearing a jacket for a couple minutes, and not really thinking about the cold at that point anyways.

On warm days:
Underarmor tee shirt or long sleeve shirt, and then shooting shirt over top. A lot of people think that two shirts must be hot, but the underarmor does an excellent job of wicking away sweat and keeping you cool. It also prevents a loose fitting shooting shirt from sticking to you.
Underarmor compression shorts also keep your junk in place and wick away sweat while keeping your pants from sticking to your thighs or chafing your inner thighs.
 
For handgun only, I use a small backpack. Enough for all my ammo, mags, spare parts, ppe, basic tools and random supplies. For long gun events, my rifle bag has plenty of extra storage pockets. For pants, any cargo pants are alright. Shirts get tucked in, so they don't affect the draw, but polyester shirts have been popular in pretty much every sport out there because of the freedom of movement. They tend to be loose-fitting. Also mind the rule 5.3.2 (*)



(*) Rule does not actually exist. This is a joke :cool:

Comrade, does the shirt need to have have hammer and sickle?
 
I just took my BB course with Joey at the Spruce grove range in April, and despite snowing in the morning and getting a sunburn that afternoon, it was amazing!
Being bundled up didn't really hamper me, as I was lucky to have a tight windbreaker that fit over my hoodie and shirt and kept everything out of the way. My biggest PITA was a belt, I wish I had the double alpha belt before the course and not after.
I used a Allen range bag as it was what I really wanted, a knock off of the 5.11 tactical with fold down work station.

I also made the mistake of not having my pistol in a separate locked container, just trigger locked in a locked compartment, which meant dragging my whole range bag to the safety table to get it out and put it away. Now I have a mini pelican hardcase that fits just the pistol for this reason.

The downside of the backpack is having to stack what you need vertically, and with the amount of times you'll need to go in and get more ammo, that might be a pain, but depends on the type of pack you use and how good you are at tetris!

For pants I used a set of carhart cargo work pants from marks work warehouse ( $50? I think), as they were less stiff than jeans, had wider belt loops, tons of pockets and if it had rained I would have been okay in them.

Make sure you bring a set of gloves, you won't shoot in them, but if its frosty on the ground and you have to go over the exam outside first thing in the morning, you will be glad you have them!

amazon.ca/Allen-Company-Master-Tactical-Range/dp/B001TKEU60/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402674300&sr=8-1&keywords=allen+range

That is the range bag I use, it has free shipping, and has held up really well for me.

I used Howard Leight electronic hearing protection, as did a few other students, no complaints at all.

After the course I ended up spending the extra $ to get a actual double alpha academt belt, $60, and bladetech holster and mag holders ($110), but I took my course with a cheap fobus paddle holster ($24) and 4 tazmanian tiger soft pistol mag holders($11 each).
I still prefer the soft mag holders, as I am a bit more..ahem round, and the firm holders dug the mags into my roll a bit when moving, where as the soft ones had a bit more give but still fit the mags great. The belt I took with me was a duty belt from the surplus store in edmonton, was a waste of $35, the velcro was crappy and weak so my inner and outer kept seperating, so day 2 I went to walmart and bough the sturdiest belt they had, which was another 25. for the 60 I spent on 2 crappy belts, I should have just gone with the DAA one in the first place, but learned from it.

Also, make sure you have a upla mag loader, will save your fingers big time, and the quicker you reload your mags the fast you can shoot!

I've totally rambled, sorry! lol talking about the course still gets me all giddy from how much fun it was!

Hah, I'm just as excited for my course as you appear to have been for yours. I'm also taking it with Joey, based on people's recommendations and meeting him at last year's WRAS Steel Challenge. Easy going, and a straight shooter (pun intended).

I hadn't thought about wearing Carhart's but I think I'll stop by Mark's to take a look. Might be just what I'm looking for. I'm not so much concerned about frost in August, but definitely wind and rain. How are you finding the BladeTech mag holders? I've heard good and bad.
 
Comrade, does the shirt need to have have hammer and sickle?

Wrong era.. Comrade my father, I Mister :D This is what a typical IPSC shirt looks like..
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Adidas track suit (*) for pre-match warmup or cooldown, next to the BBQ.. Gotta stay in shape ("round" is a shape) :cool:

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On a useful note, when doing some cold weather shoots (like my BB, that was pushing 0), I had an army-issue wool sweater (Vince would have defecated a brick) on top of a thin cotton sweater, on top of a cotton t-shirt, all tucked into my pants. I didn't suck any more than I sucked next time around, just weaing a poly t-shirt. You have a LOOOOOOOOONG way to go until the shirt you wear (within reason) will make a difference on your performance.

(*) Credit for the Adidas track suit joke goes to another cgn-er, posted on another forum, but I'll let him chime in if he wants to be identified
 
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...Badge-course-review-Instructor-Joey-Tolentino

Awesome to hear, you won't regret it!
The bladetechs are..okay. Eventually I would love a racebelt set up with the DAA holders, but the blade techs are nice. Another reason why I liked the soft pouches, was that it took up alot less room, the blade techs to have 4 mags on my belt, wrapped around to a point where it was almost awkward with how far back the last mag is, while the TT soft ones kept everything nice and close.

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those are the soft ones I keep mentioning. I just folded the lid backwards and snapped it closed to keep it an open pouch, but its easy to unsnap and keep the mags secured when my belt rig is off.
 
If you are getting the sport, I would recommend a nice Range Bag like the CED Deluxe Professional bags we sell or go for the DAA backpacks we sell. The backpacks with the range kart are the hot set up as you don't have to carry anything as you can just wheel it around. The cart breaks down for storage and transportation in your truck or suitcase.

I am a firm believe in buy once and be happy instead of buying some bag that really doesn't suit your purposes well and then needing to upgrade.
 
If you are getting the sport, I would recommend a nice Range Bag like the CED Deluxe Professional bags we sell or go for the DAA backpacks we sell. The backpacks with the range kart are the hot set up as you don't have to carry anything as you can just wheel it around. The cart breaks down for storage and transportation in your truck or suitcase.

I am a firm believe in buy once and be happy instead of buying some bag that really doesn't suit your purposes well and then needing to upgrade.

Thanks for the tip. That pack is the kind of thing I'm looking for. Does anybody else know of other similar style packs? After watching a video on CED's YouTube channel, that pack looks impressive and is what I want functionally speaking. Not gonna lie though, I think it's pretty ugly looking. :p
 
Everything HungryBeagle said for clothing, even for us rotund guys Under Armor works awesome. For a range bag buy a dedicated "for guns" range bag or back pack. Shooters Gear Competition Series is pretty much the best bag going and either the DAA backpack or Guga Ribas backpack (the original, DAA scooped the design).
For a belt one of the major competition ones. For mag pouches, just buy DAA or similar, they are adjustable for even big fat guys (I'm one of them) and secure your mags better than a soft pouch with easier release when you need it. Soft pouches will piss you off. If have pouches with flaps they have to be used unless you cut them off, don't waste your time, get proper gear, this isn't IDPA.
 
+1 on the DAA pouches. Adjustable angle, adjustable tension (great in other games where you may not stay vertical all the time and may move around more), smooth draw. Also love my DAA belt even though I run the CR Speed for handgun and don't have any complaints about it.
 
I hate to admit it, but after 23 years of gun / IPSC / shooting specific backpacks and range bags; I found the best solution outside of them all.

I have a 5.11 Rush 24 and a couple Molle attached pouches and it does a fantastic job; carries everything I need (and I carry too much crap) and more.
Is flexible enough to properly fit in a suitcase; dozens of compartments, expandable with molle if you need it, etc.

The only thing about it that sucks is I don't even sell 5.11...

A +1 with Slavex on Underarmor for a layer of warmth.
5.11 Pants and Shorts are handy clothing - lots of pockets, reinforced in the right places, and loos in the other right places.
Salomen Speedcross is without a doubt the #1 IPSC shoe now.
 
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I hate to admit it, but after 23 years of gun / IPSC / shooting specific backpacks and range bags; I found the best solution outside of them all.

I have a 5.11 Rush 24 and a couple Molle attached pouches and it does a fantastic job; carries everything I need (and I carry too much crap) and more.
Is flexible enough to properly fit in a suitcase; dozens of compartments, expandable with molle if you need it, etc.

The only thing about it that sucks is I don't even sell 5.11...

A +1 with Slavex on Underarmor for a layer of warmth.
5.11 Pants and Shorts are handy clothing - lots of pockets, reinforced in the right places, and loos in the other right places.
Salomen Speedcross is without a doubt the #1 IPSC shoe now.

Lets be honest Sean you carry so much crap because people, including me, have come to you with gun issues wondering if you happen to have "part x" or "spring x". So many are glad you carry so much crap.
 
Salomen Speedcross is without a doubt the #1 IPSC shoe now.

Just one note on shoes.. Just because there is "the one shoe to rule them all" doesn't mean that it's the right choice for you. You should choose your shoe based on how it fits YOU.. In my case, I found various Salomon models to be uncomfortable, even though I like the brand for snow sport gear. Merrell had a line of "Wide" sizes that were a great fit for me and ended up choosing one of their products (more of a low-top hiker, but it does the trick). Felt sorry for the sales rep as I tried 11 different shoes before making my final decision. Was even worse when I was shopping for workboots.. Tried 25-30 different models with the only considerations being fit and comfort. That's also what you should be aiming at. As long as the soles are suitable for soft surface use, pick something that fits great, is comfortable to wear all day and if you have a couple of models that'll do the trick, if you're an IDPA guy, go for the lighter ones and if you're an IPSC guys, get the ones with bright, loud, flashy colors :cool:
 
Lots of good advice here. My preference is to use something like the 5.11 Rush pack over the DAA pack, simply for the versatility offered by the platform. If I decide to go with a dedicated pack like the DAA, I won't consider the 5.11 a waste as it''ll replace my current hiking pack.

I get that having good base layers matters. Any of you use Helly Hansen gear? I ask cause the company I work for has a discount with Mark's Work Wearhouse and I'd like to take advantage.

As far as my mag pouches, I'm going with a pair of Blade Tech ones, and completing the set with DAA. Only reason I'm getting the Blade Tech is to have kosher gear for IDPA as well.
 
pants and shorts can be just about any brand, so long as they let you move. Rain gear typically comes off when you're shooting, so make sure it's easy to remove. I've only ever shot a couple matches wearing full rain gear, and that sucked
 
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