IPSC match... rain or shine question.

I'm in the 9am squad myself... can't wait but since this is my first, demonstrating safe handling of my G21 and not getting DQ'ed is my main goal so I can get my blue card signed.

... and it looks like I will need pull out the rain gear for Saturday, rain is forecasted for the day.

Listen carefully if you are able to read this before going.
1. WALK THE COURSE. You have no interest in speed during your qualifier.
2. TALK TO YOURSELF CONSTANTLY. Say things like "finger off the trigger" "muzzle downrange" "safety on" "don't drop the gun", etc.
3. REMEMBER. Not only do you have no interest in speed during this qualifier course... you have no interest in score. The only thing you are interested in is safety, safety, safety. That means your finger is OFF the trigger unless you are pointing directly at a target. Period. That means that your safety is on your gun or it is decocked EVERY time you holster. In fact, when you finish a course of fire, do NOTHING until instructed to show clear, etc. Just stand there.
4. DO NOT RELOAD while moving. Period. Make sure you are standing still and looking at the bottom of your grip... with the gun pointed DOWNRANGE. Drop the empty mag onto the ground by releasing without getting your trigger finger anywhere near the trigger guard. Grab a full magazine without looking at it and watch the gun all the time... watch the new mag enter the gun and regardless of what the manual for your gun says... slap that sucker into the grip good and hard. The last thing you want is for the magazine to fall onto the ground when you raise your gun back up. Or for a misfeed. Or whatever. I gave each reloaded mag a good tug to make sure it was seated one hundred percent before moving my gun back out forward of me.
5. DO NOT PICK ANYTHING UP OFF THE GROUND until you complete the course of fire and the range officer calls the range safe/clear.
6. DO NOT DROP YOUR GUN. Jeez. I admit that I did this due to an improperly adjusted holster.... it is embarrassing and it is an instant disqualification (I did it the first day). If you do happen to drop your gun DO NOT pick it up! The RO will do that. And maybe take pity on you.
7. WALK THE COURSE. NO NEED FOR SPEED. FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER WHEN NOT POINTED AT THE TARGET YOU INTEND TO HIT. SAFETY ON WHEN HOLSTERING. IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A SHOT, SKIP IT! WHEN YOU ARE DONE, STAND STILL AND WAIT FOR INSTRUCTIONS.

Above all. Don't sweat it. Come out as early as possible and watch the other shooters. Everyone is there to help YOU believe it or not and they will ensure that you know your course of fire before you shoot it. If you have questions... ASK! The only stupid question is the one not asked.

And one last thing. This is not the time to play with your gun before the match... i.e. trigger jobs, etc. Just shoot production or standard with a good reliable firearm and four or five magazines. You should have run a thousand rounds or more through that gun already yourself personally and you should not have had a single failure in that thousand rounds. If you did, practice your slap, rack and fire drill so you know what to do in the event of a failure.

That's about all I can think of. Good luck. Enjoy!

We will be in Barrie tomorrow. Also calling for rain and we don't know if it is inside or outside, but the work tables are sheltered and our guns are stainless so it shouldn't be too bad. They need cleaning anyway.
 
Well spent a LOVELY day in the rain prepping for the Provincials!!

YEA!!

Hurricane IKE is coming!!

Should be a FUN FUN time!!

(they say it should clear up for the end of the week but the set up will be a B!)
 
Had a great time and the weather was perfect, no rain. :D

All the fellow shooters and RO's were super friendly and very helpful, thanks everyone.

... And I got my BB "blue card" signed!!! :D Time to send it in and get my official badge. :cool:

Ya... I sound like a giddy school girl on prom night right now... :slap:
 
The fates smiled today. I shot Barrie and Sharon, and finished early. Junior had a great first day watching IPSC.
 
Had a great time and the weather was perfect, no rain. :D

All the fellow shooters and RO's were super friendly and very helpful, thanks everyone.

... And I got my BB "blue card" signed!!! :D Time to send it in and get my official badge. :cool:

Ya... I sound like a giddy school girl on prom night right now... :slap:

Yipper was a cool match today tobad I had this squib load :eek::eek:
 
Just out of curiosity...why is this any more important at your qualifier than it is at any other match :confused:

Listen carefully if you are able to read this before going.
1. WALK THE COURSE. You have no interest in speed during your qualifier.
2. TALK TO YOURSELF CONSTANTLY. Say things like "finger off the trigger" "muzzle downrange" "safety on" "don't drop the gun", etc.
3. REMEMBER. Not only do you have no interest in speed during this qualifier course... you have no interest in score. The only thing you are interested in is safety, safety, safety. That means your finger is OFF the trigger unless you are pointing directly at a target. Period. That means that your safety is on your gun or it is decocked EVERY time you holster. In fact, when you finish a course of fire, do NOTHING until instructed to show clear, etc. Just stand there.
4. DO NOT RELOAD while moving. Period. Make sure you are standing still and looking at the bottom of your grip... with the gun pointed DOWNRANGE. Drop the empty mag onto the ground by releasing without getting your trigger finger anywhere near the trigger guard. Grab a full magazine without looking at it and watch the gun all the time... watch the new mag enter the gun and regardless of what the manual for your gun says... slap that sucker into the grip good and hard. The last thing you want is for the magazine to fall onto the ground when you raise your gun back up. Or for a misfeed. Or whatever. I gave each reloaded mag a good tug to make sure it was seated one hundred percent before moving my gun back out forward of me.
5. DO NOT PICK ANYTHING UP OFF THE GROUND until you complete the course of fire and the range officer calls the range safe/clear.
6. DO NOT DROP YOUR GUN. Jeez. I admit that I did this due to an improperly adjusted holster.... it is embarrassing and it is an instant disqualification (I did it the first day). If you do happen to drop your gun DO NOT pick it up! The RO will do that. And maybe take pity on you.
7. WALK THE COURSE. NO NEED FOR SPEED. FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER WHEN NOT POINTED AT THE TARGET YOU INTEND TO HIT. SAFETY ON WHEN HOLSTERING. IF YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH A SHOT, SKIP IT! WHEN YOU ARE DONE, STAND STILL AND WAIT FOR INSTRUCTIONS.

Above all. Don't sweat it. Come out as early as possible and watch the other shooters. Everyone is there to help YOU believe it or not and they will ensure that you know your course of fire before you shoot it. If you have questions... ASK! The only stupid question is the one not asked.

And one last thing. This is not the time to play with your gun before the match... i.e. trigger jobs, etc. Just shoot production or standard with a good reliable firearm and four or five magazines. You should have run a thousand rounds or more through that gun already yourself personally and you should not have had a single failure in that thousand rounds. If you did, practice your slap, rack and fire drill so you know what to do in the event of a failure.

That's about all I can think of. Good luck. Enjoy!

We will be in Barrie tomorrow. Also calling for rain and we don't know if it is inside or outside, but the work tables are sheltered and our guns are stainless so it shouldn't be too bad. They need cleaning anyway.
 
Just out of curiosity...why is this any more important at your qualifier than it is at any other match :confused:

Well because PLENTY Of it does not apply to any other match.

I shoot for SPEED.

I reload on the move etc.

Sure some of it is BASIC safety .........but much of his points apply to newbies only.

Me thinks you hit reply before actually understanding and perhaps READING what he wrote my good man.
 
I read...and I comprehend pretty well. I just don't agree that what you do in your first match is any more or less important than your second or your 10th...



Well because PLENTY Of it does not apply to any other match.

I shoot for SPEED.

I reload on the move etc.

Sure some of it is BASIC safety .........but much of his points apply to newbies only.

Me thinks you hit reply before actually understanding and perhaps READING what he wrote my good man.
 
What was written as "plain as day" was during your qualifier match, your only concern is safety. I'm just wondering whey anyone would think that safety is less important during match 2...



So you never shoot for speed?

You do not reload on the move?


That is what was written.....................plain as day.
 
So you never shoot for speed?

You do not reload on the move?


That is what was written.....................plain as day.

Reloading on the move will get you dead. Exposing yourself from cover or concealment with a non functioning firearm that has your full attention(eyes on gun not surroundings) is an excellent way to earn a dirt nap. Oh, sorry, we're talking about gaming.

TDC
 
I've noticed frontenac level 2 had some last minute drop outs, probably due to the possibility of rain (which never happened :) ), I hope that if rain is in the forecast come match time, that people don't change their mind, you gotta just come prepared and go for it, and make the best of it, understood the level 2 was not prepaid, but either way...... go out till you're forced to call it quits, not the other way around !
you'llnever have any interesting stories to tell, if you always stay home when things are not perfect conditions .... my two cents
lets all have a fun and great match this weeekend !!
 
What time did you shoot??

I was there for 12 noon...but I din;t see you. Who was on your squad?

I've noticed frontenac level 2 had some last minute drop outs, probably due to the possibility of rain (which never happened :) ), I hope that if rain is in the forecast come match time, that people don't change their mind, you gotta just come prepared and go for it, and make the best of it, understood the level 2 was not prepaid, but either way...... go out till you're forced to call it quits, not the other way around !
you'llnever have any interesting stories to tell, if you always stay home when things are not perfect conditions .... my two cents
lets all have a fun and great match this weeekend !!
 
What time did you shoot??

I was there for 12 noon...but I din;t see you. Who was on your squad?


I posted pics from our squad.
We have never seen because you guys were always shooting different end of the range. We have started with first stage, where you finish shooting inside the barrel.
 
We finished shooting on the middle range (stacked single shot stage and the start in setaed position long course)

I posted pics from our squad.
We have never seen because you guys were always shooting different end of the range. We have started with first stage, where you finish shooting inside the barrel.
 
I wanted to say hi to a few of you guys :wave:, but ended up missing each other in transition between stages....did see tritium..... enjoyed the match, this is second time this year i shoot frontenac after a 3 month absence from ipsc...and ended up shoot'n ok....
 
Reloading on the move will get you dead. Exposing yourself from cover or concealment with a non functioning firearm that has your full attention(eyes on gun not surroundings) is an excellent way to earn a dirt nap. Oh, sorry, we're talking about gaming.

TDC

that's right when your gun goes dry, and you're out in the open, run for for cover, don't try and reload while you're moving. cuz you'll end up dead. oh wait, what's better a gun that works or a gun that doesn't? I'd have to say a gun that does. Telling someone that reloading on the move is going to get them killed, even if it was in the right section of this forum (lets say Service Rifle instead of ACTION SHOOTING GAMES), is about as true as telling someone they are going to get sunburned just walking out into the sun. if your gun goes dry, or it malfs you HAVE to deal with it, no matter where you are, and moving while doing it is a helluva lot better than just standing there working on it. If cover is available, move to cover, but be working on that gun as you go. It's wonderful to be aware of what's happening around you, but if your gun isn't working and you're not in the fight, it doesn't matter how much awareness you have of the bullets hitting you, you're ####ed. get the gun going, stay moving.
 
Tdc

Originally Posted by TDC
"Reloading on the move will get you dead. Exposing yourself from cover or concealment with a non functioning firearm that has your full attention(eyes on gun not surroundings) is an excellent way to earn a dirt nap. Oh, sorry, we're talking about gaming."

If we are talking about playing IPSC - you know the sport - unless IPSC is played differently in Alberta the targets don't shoot back and there is no chance of earning " a dirt nap". Just one reason why when I play IPSC I reload on the move if it is to my advantage to do so. Nothing to do with "gaming" but more appropriately how the game is played.

Take Care

Bob
 
"Reloading on the move will get you dead. Exposing yourself from cover or concealment with a non functioning firearm that has your full attention(eyes on gun not surroundings) is an excellent way to earn a dirt nap. Oh, sorry, we're talking about gaming."

Seems to me that the "Do whatever it takes to win, in whatever the situation you find yourself" philosophy would apply. Be it a game or a fight, the situation will always require preparedness and adaptability, and if it requires a reload from cover...or a reload on the move while clearing a malfunction...so be it. Whatever it takes in THAT situation.

I think it's a good way to look at life in general. Any time I try to apply hard and fast rules of conduct to the ever-fluxing situations of (my) life, I end up getting bit in the ass by them.
 
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"Reloading on the move will get you dead. Exposing yourself from cover or concealment with a non functioning firearm that has your full attention(eyes on gun not surroundings) is an excellent way to earn a dirt nap. Oh, sorry, we're talking about gaming."

Seems to me that the "Do whatever it takes to win, in whatever the situation you find yourself" philosophy would apply. Be it a game or a fight, the situation will always require preparedness and adaptability, and if it requires a reload from cover...or a reload on the move while clearing a malfunction...so be it. Whatever it takes in THAT situation.

I think it's a good way to look at life in general. Any time I try to apply hard and fast rules of conduct to the ever-fluxing situations of (my) life, I end up getting bit in the ass by them.


exactly,...good points;). Being too rigid in form or function can lead to less than desirable results....we adapt in IPSC. SOme times I reload on the move,..sometimes it is done before I really start moving.

Another good point is that boards don't hit back.....(a little Bruce Lee saying there..):p
ie: paper targets don't hit back,..so I shoot at will..
 
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