What a surprise, since IPSC is after all, a GAME. This really is getting a little silly now.
IPSC Mini Targets shows up at Barrie
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What a surprise, since IPSC is after all, a GAME. This really is getting a little silly now.
Rob,
I agree, and I like our RD stance on that. I think we need to talk about those little changes when there is time. VP IMO is open minded person and he endorses open discussion.
Visit GV and voice your opinion, whatever you think. There are so many Euro shooters who pretty much agree with whatever is proposed. Have I mentioned those are usually the same bunch of guys.
If we want to keep our sport certain way at least we need to speak up.
Again, sorry for switching the topic.
It's not a matter of being PC, the new targets were introduced and in order to get them approved they had to put some limitations on their use. Do I agree? No, not with that particular limit, as I figure once we have used them for awhile, and people figure they are here to stay, we'll get to mix them with full size. No big deal, it's not like they suddenly yanked that ability, since they never existed before. Getting rid of the Metric targets pissed me off, and I find it hard to believe that motion actually passed.
I'm not sure what you;re saying here...but...you can not take a site picture on a target after you load and make ready...it has to happen before. That'a nothing new
Actually, I'm not sure what you are saying (that's why I asked)
I will say one thing and that is that the "sight picture" is getting a bit ridiculous.
RO: Load and make ready...
Shooter then draws his gun, leans around the barricade and takes a site picture.
It happens allot...it should never happen. That in my opinion is pushing it too far.The purpose of a site picture is for all the old guys in open to make sure the dot is on (because the memory is the first thing to go...or is that the second thing)
I don't like being rushed...so as an RO I never rush the shooter...but there are a few people that take it way too far...
I think that's what you were getting at?
Quigley,
I agree with you, some take it to 'infinity'. I am not close to you in RO-ing matches, it happens that I help from time to time. I am a shooter and I always look at the sport through shooter's glasses (my new Rydon now), however I will never allow shooter to take extra step or lean for the sight picture. I have seen it happen under some ROs.
I think, if there is present an open target while standing at start position, why not take an opportunity taking sight picture. Some stages start from behind barricades where targets are not visible, at this instance no way as a RO I will walk a shooter to obtain first target picture or allow him lean over.
In my understanding, sight picture should be only taken while at the starting box, line or location and not walking allowed. This is what I practice. As a shooter, I don't like 'playing' games with RO. RO has a crappy job to do and making them upset in my book is no-no.
This is my take on that.
I agree with you, some take it to 'infinity'. I am not close to you in RO-ing matches, it happens that I help from time to time. I am a shooter and I always look at the sport through shooter's glasses (my new Rydon now), however I will never allow shooter to take extra step or lean for the sight picture. I have seen it happen under some ROs.
I think, if there is present an open target while standing at start position, why not take an opportunity taking sight picture. Some stages start from behind barricades where targets are not visible, at this instance no way as a RO I will walk a shooter to obtain first target picture or allow him lean over.
In my understanding, sight picture should be only taken while at the starting box, line or location and not walking allowed. This is what I practice. As a shooter, I don't like 'playing' games with RO. RO has a crappy job to do and making them upset in my book is no-no.
This is my take on that.
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An intellligent response - strangely similar to the previous response to ranting, whining and #####ing in each of the last two threads that previously mentioned mini targets. Very refreshing, thanks Rob.
I do really miss the "B" zone option. It definitely changes the decision process when deciding how to shoot partials.
stormbringer
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Not even close.
It has only to do with being PC. That is it...........
There is no legitimate shooting reason for the limitation. The only one is the French minister who was horrified by IPSC mini poppers.
One question...........who made it such that limitation HAD to be placed on their use?
Who is this mysterious force?
stormbringer
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An intellligent response - strangely similar to the previous response to ranting, whining and #####ing in each of the last two threads that previously mentioned mini targets. Very refreshing, thanks Rob.
There is no ranting
There is no whining
#####ing.............yes that would qualify because some of believe that there is more at stake here than just a stupid target, more than just IPSC shooting for that matter.
If we cannot win even small battles of this PC nature amongst the so called shooting fraternity........we are hooped!
There is a much bigger picture.............
The story with poppers / mini-poppers and mini-targets is actually interesting.
Here's what I red on GV (posted by Vince):
Original motion regarding mini-poppers also included clause to prohibit using both sizes on same stage. But motion was made by USA representative (who else?) to change "must not" to "may".
Motion for mini-targets was put forward by France and seconded by German representatives. At this time nobody made an attempt to change wording, so motion passed as is. I guess Michael Voigt was not paying attention, or just didn't care.
