Ipsc newbie gun selection and questions??

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Looking to get into comp shooting and at this point I know very little. Just trying to get an idea where to start and what to have in the beginning...

In what class do newbies typically start? i.e Standard, production, classic??

Basic starter gun that will perform as needed (no bells and whistles as I have no idea how to use them anyway haha.)

Any info or insight would be greatly appreciated.
 
It depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go. Personally I shoot standard. But for someone getting into the sport I would suggest production, get a glock 9mm with some bladetech mag pouches and a holster and you should be set.
 
For a new shooter, I'd recommend the Czech nutcracker - Shadow. It's heavier than the tupperware (glock/m&p) which means it absorbs recoil better. Accurate-shooting and reliable gun. You may spend a couple of extra c-notes on the guns/mags, but it's WELL worth it at the end of the day. With that being said, who knows, you might be one of those 3 weirdos for whom this might not be the right gun, so try all of the usual suspects and choose the most comfortable-shooting one. Not a big fan of the bladetech mag pouches. I bought'em and then ended up spending the extra bucks on getting DAA's anyway. Bladetech holster works great for me, though and it's a great budget option. Once you pick/order your gun, talk to Josko at Doubletap Sports. He will hook you up with great service and reasonable prices.
 
Classic division, more adaptable to you as a shooter while still meeting divisional requirements, tonnes of aftermarket legal stuff.
 
Tratserif, I am officially insulted since I am one of those 3 :p

I really depends on what you currently have or like most, If you have a pistol that is on the production list I would start there get some extra mags a good belt and pouches (DAA or CRSpeed), Holster Bladetech is definitely the way to go. I would look at going into production or Classic (if you have a 1911).

I spent a year shooting a sig P226 in production before moving on to Standard. If you really need to get a new pistol for IPSC the I agree with Tratserif the Shadow is your best bet, not too expensive, very competitive, unless your a weirdo like me :).
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
Not a big fan of the bladetech mag pouches. I bought'em and then ended up spending the extra bucks on getting DAA's anyway.
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I have heard mixed reviews of the bladetech pouches as well, but for the price point it may be worth a try for someone starting out. The revolution pouches I have had the chance to get my mits on seem to be of good quality.
 
+1 on the CZ. I don't like the looks of the internal slide design but damn, it fits so well in the hands that it's almost like instinctive point shooting to me... It's on my list of guns to buy. :)
 
My vote for the shadow as well. If I were going to shoot production that is where I'd go.

The best advice is try before you buy. Hang around the range. Make new friends. Bribe them with beer or ammo to let you give their guns a go.

Everyone is going to have a different opinion but the common theme is glocks are plentiful and some guys will beat you silly in a competition with them. But the rest of us cannot shoot or learn to like them to save our lives. Shadows are golden. Period. Really nice in your hands and really good shooters. If you end up not liking a Shadow you can sell it almost immediately in the EE. Other stuff like the STI Edge is about three times the cost but oh so ###y. The 1911 trigger is the finest piece of workmanship you will ever have the pleasure to place you finger on. Once you try a competition 1911 trigger everything else will feel like the trigger you find on those bottles for killing weeds in your driveway.

Oh... btw... I'm a 1911 fan-boy so ya... I'm biased ;)
 
Like many said, CZ is a good choice and its probably the best bang for the buck for getting into IPSC. Glock is also a good choice since its very simple to operate and no need to worry about external hammers. However, all being said, you should try different choices before you decide. Try to shoot all of them and see which one you feel the most comfortable and can shoot the most accurate. A rental gun range will be a good place to go for this purpose.
 
I vote 1911, but im probably a bit biased. I did my black badge with a box stock norinco 1911 from the Canada Ammo deal, a $20 black hawk holster, and a couple of the cheapest double mag pouches I could find to see if I was going to be interested. Turns out I like it, so I bought a DAA belt and some mag pouches and have been tricking out my norc. If I were to do it over again, I would have bought the good mag pouches from the start, and if I wasn't handy in the shop, I would get a good holster right away too. I built a nice belt bracket for the one I have so it works good for me now.

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Thanks Guys. I will have to try out all of the above and go from there as suggested. I really appreciate the feedback. Some of the stuff is about a mile over my head but I will catch up...:) To be honest I have really only handled rifles/shotguns and have no experience with pistols. I know a couple of guys that are into IPSC and after seeing what goes on I became really interested in it! I will keep you posted on my progress! Thanks again.
 
im biased because I love classic division, but I say classic div or if you have to go production with a shadow.

for classic, buy a spartan and have a trigger job done and you are good to go (well, magwell helps too).

production, buy a shadow and mags, slim safeties if you can find/afford them, and play with some of the springs.

I still like classic, you can do more things to your gun to suit you and 1911s are just awesome.
 
as a noob i chose a glock 21. i decided to spend all the extra money on ammo and some upgrades. now i grab a 1911 and its way too easy to shoot, as a beginner you will appreciate 10 pls 1 rounds vs 8 plus 1 in a 1911. all the time you spend reloading you will be spending shooting. i plan on keeping my glock 21 as i fear the worst, ive become a glock fanboy.
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
Yep, same here.. With that being said, I found some use for the el-cheapo Bladetech pouches, but it sure wasn't IPSC lol Nice work on the holster btw :cheers:
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I'm on my third season with the el-cheapo Bladetech pouches, and I have no plans to upgrade. I can assure everyone that the magazine pouches are not what is holding me back! :cheers:

Early on especially, imho you'll get far more bang for buck by spending your budget on training ammo, courses, and match expenses.
 
There's some great info here!

As someone in this thread recommended, it's probably in your best interest to see if you can shoot a couple of the most popular options, Glock CZ75, 1911, etc. People have some strong preferences for how they feel. This is my first year in IPSC with my first shoot in a couple days; I'm going to be shooting classic as I have a 1911 I'm very happy with... But on the flip side, I bought a Glock 10mm and be damned if I'm not very accurate with it without any practice, somehow. If you find you shoot better with one, it might be worth starting out in that direction. The only word of warning - Glocks are typically very similar to one another, the CZs see minimal changes as their fame is in the unmodified production division, but the 1911s vary wildly from the vulnerable Norinco (which people have had great success with customizing) up to high-dollar Infinity raceguns. In a nutshell... not all 1911s are the same.

I dont know that there is a division that suits newcomers best. Your division will likely be decided for you by what firearm you choose. The Open division will see the harshest competition, you'd be more confident to steer clear of that, for now.

Finally, also as a newcomer... I received a tremendous amount of information in my Black Badge course. I would see if you could track down some formal handgun shooting instruction BEFORE you take your Black Badge. They'll be able to set you up with shooting fundamentals that you can build on as you work your way up.

I shouldn't comment on holsters/mag pouches, etc yet. I have spent a lot of money experimenting already; I finally decided to quit wasting funds and just go give it a try. I'll keep you posted. ;)

Good luck!
 
hek76 said:
as a noob i chose a glock 21. i decided to spend all the extra money on ammo and some upgrades. now i grab a 1911 and its way too easy to shoot, as a beginner you will appreciate 10 pls 1 rounds vs 8 plus 1 in a 1911. all the time you spend reloading you will be spending shooting. i plan on keeping my glock 21 as i fear the worst, ive become a glock fanboy.
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the round difference wont matter, the 1911 will shoot in classic where major is 8 rounds and minor is 10 so you are competing against the same capacity.
 
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