Sig,
go first to the post #115 for definition.
I guess, you are friend of person in question. For your information, I am not interested in person but in action of that person which happen and was mentioned in post #63.
You know what, probably all you say about Mr. W. is truth, I don't know, what I know in my short IPSC life is, 'sh!t' happen at one stage at 2009 Nationals, one shooter got DQ, and Mr. W. tore best stage of the match and went home.
If this is a description of a man you defend, I rest my case.
Gentlemen, the purpose of this thread (for me) was to respond to the concerns of another member of this forum. And I actually command everyone who has come to the defense of their friend, for their loyalty but that being said, I am very disappointed with the way everyone is handling the issue of what happened. You can sugarcoat the issue in order to protect your friend but please keep in mind if that type of behaviour is allowed to happen it will be the downfall of our sport. And if we care about this sport we would not be defending those actions but rather demanding some kind of corrective measures. The least of which should be apology to the competitors of 2009 Nationals for removing the stage and having it toasted from the match. These are my final words.
Peter
Peter, as far as your your "take the ball and go home" theory goes, that would be typical of an individual that knows nothing of what is involved with the construction, design and execution of a top level stage. The events that led up to the elimination of said stage are not relevent. there is a great deal of information that will never be public knowledge and is not a factor any longer. A decision was made, right or wrong. The next time that you spend thousands of dollars, travel thousands of miles, work weeks, all for a sport, all for free! then maybe you will understand why one would not lose so much more to stand and wait while being completely unsupported by ones piers in fear of possible hard feellings. I realize this may be hard for you to comprehend. I never get heated, you dont know me, so it is a non issue. A coward in seemingly good company for unexplainable reasons won out over a man of great integrity. I wont attack the decision makers, but I do have all the facts, and NO, you are not privy to them. Is Wolf my friend, yes he is , one of my closest. If you are basing your decision on a stage removed from a match then your support is not needed. Base your decision on that, and I am glad it is your final word.
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