IPSC question
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as for what is the best starter ipsc gun, hard to say since some guns many not fit you...but I'd recommed getting a good gun right away; so can you lean faster and you won't need to switch to something better latter on.
as for capacity of course 10 round is better than 7 (for ipsc); less reloading! also it's easier to reload with a double stack (since it's bigger, more comfortable to hold).
as for capacity of course 10 round is better than 7 (for ipsc); less reloading! also it's easier to reload with a double stack (since it's bigger, more comfortable to hold).
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Rifleboy said:
Do you want to shoot Production, Standard, or Open ?
www.ipsc.org for more info....
10rd mags do seem to have an advantage at least around here as it seems that many of our stages involve 10rd strings b/w mag changes (5 targets x 2rds each). could still be done with 7rd mags but if you have to do a mag change in between... that just sucks. Also, depending how many mags you carry....
10rd mags - 1 mag in gun + 1rd from stripper, 6 in pouches = 71 rds
7rd mags - 1 mag in gun + 1rd from stripper, 6 in pouches = 43 rds
Shoot a longer stage with a Texas star and even 71rds can go by fast if you are having a bad day (I remember at our Spring match we had a stage with two Texas stars and while I worked the stage in the morning, I think I saw 3 or 4 people run out of ammo and they all seemed to be using 10rd mags). Then again, if you shoot accurately, maybe 7rd mags will suffice.
Just in case it is the case, if you are thinking 1911 single stack 45acp (7rd mags), you will be in Standard most likely (unless you have a comped bbl or optics) and you can get 10rd mags for it (chip mcCormick)
Do you already have a 9mm or larger caliber firearm?
If you do, then THAT's the best firearm to start shooting IPSC with. Once you've had a chance to shoot IPSC, and talk to a few people about the different divisions, then you can consider changing to a different firearm that more meets your needs or the criteria for the division you want to compete in.
If you do, then THAT's the best firearm to start shooting IPSC with. Once you've had a chance to shoot IPSC, and talk to a few people about the different divisions, then you can consider changing to a different firearm that more meets your needs or the criteria for the division you want to compete in.
Depends on the type of magwell. Some attach just to the grip screws while some are integrated into the MSH (these two types you can usually do yourself). Might be best to talk to a professional like Gunnar at Armco or Rodger at Dark or Smoking Gun FX or TSE or Freedome Ventures and they can point you in the right direction. The main reason I would send it to a smith is to make sure the magwell extender is properly lined up with the magwell and everything is aligned properly (and God knows any of the above guys are good at this kind of stuff). Fit and finish is where you can tell the difference between my doing it and a professional gunsmith doing it....
Thanks for your advice.
Do you think Springfield is a decent pistol to start shooting IPSC?
What rounds would you recommend, weight and make?
Do you reload you own, if so which dies/powder/primer you go with?
Please forgive me mine rudness in asking so many questions at once, but I got so excited about shootin pistol that I just want to learn.
This my pistol:
Do you think Springfield is a decent pistol to start shooting IPSC?
What rounds would you recommend, weight and make?
Do you reload you own, if so which dies/powder/primer you go with?
Please forgive me mine rudness in asking so many questions at once, but I got so excited about shootin pistol that I just want to learn.
This my pistol:
My first gun was a Springfield Armory 1911A1. I used it for a couple of years before I upgraded to a Tripp Frame (now called an STI).
At the time, I was using cast bullets - 200 grain Semi Wadcutters. These were all the rage back then. We would shoot them with 5.7 grains of Winchester 231 for about a 180 power factor. I don't know what the current popular .45 loads are, right now.
At the time, I was using cast bullets - 200 grain Semi Wadcutters. These were all the rage back then. We would shoot them with 5.7 grains of Winchester 231 for about a 180 power factor. I don't know what the current popular .45 loads are, right now.
gorky said:
Chris, you haven't been paying attention to the stages.......and get into the rule book! Rule 1.2.1.2 and 1.2.1.3 both state in part "Course design and construction must not require more than 9 scoring hits from any single location or view...."
Dragoon said:Chris, you haven't been paying attention to the stages.......and get into the rule book! Rule 1.2.1.2 and 1.2.1.3 both state in part "Course design and construction must not require more than 9 scoring hits from any single location or view...."
No we're cool - I should have been more explicit. Last couple of matches have seemed to push the concept of shooting 10rds before a reload (example being bank of 3 targets then move past barrier for two more targets). Yes, you can reload in between but on some of the longer COFs, you start to run out of mags (especially if you would only be using 7rd mags and would HAVE to mag change in between banks of targets). Heck, even having a bank of 4 targets is a problem for a 7rd mag because even with 1 in the pipe, you will run your gun dry (which may or may not be disadvantage depending on the COF) or risk failure to engage penalties if you have FTF/FTE or shoot 3rds at a single target (again, unless you mag change).
Basically, I have trouble coming up with a scenario for advocating 7,8,9 rd mags when 10rd mags are available.
It depends very much on the DIVISION you want to shoot in:
Production: This is for 'service' type pistols with a double action first shot (your 1911 is single action only). Essentially it is for unmodified pistols and common models include the Glock 17 and 22, Beretta 92, H&K USP, CZ-75B and 85, Springfield XD etc. Most people tend to shoot 9mm.
Standard: For single action only pistols without electric optical sights or compensators. The most common pistol would be a double stack 1911 style Para, SVI or Springfield/Kimber etc in 40S&W.
Open: Single action pistols which are highly tuned, most of which have red dot sights, compensators and are highly tricked out. Most common pistol's would be double stack 1911's in 38 Super or 40S&W.
Your Kimber would be good in Standard, but 10rd mags would be an advantage. In the beginning I would not worry about capacity and that sort of thing anyway. Just start off by getting familiar with shooting IPSC and the rules etc, and of course working on your shooting skills and gun handling / reloading skills. After that you may benefit from altering / changing guns, but there is nothing wrong with what you have.
Production: This is for 'service' type pistols with a double action first shot (your 1911 is single action only). Essentially it is for unmodified pistols and common models include the Glock 17 and 22, Beretta 92, H&K USP, CZ-75B and 85, Springfield XD etc. Most people tend to shoot 9mm.
Standard: For single action only pistols without electric optical sights or compensators. The most common pistol would be a double stack 1911 style Para, SVI or Springfield/Kimber etc in 40S&W.
Open: Single action pistols which are highly tuned, most of which have red dot sights, compensators and are highly tricked out. Most common pistol's would be double stack 1911's in 38 Super or 40S&W.
Your Kimber would be good in Standard, but 10rd mags would be an advantage. In the beginning I would not worry about capacity and that sort of thing anyway. Just start off by getting familiar with shooting IPSC and the rules etc, and of course working on your shooting skills and gun handling / reloading skills. After that you may benefit from altering / changing guns, but there is nothing wrong with what you have.
Well, I often design stages with multiple positions, and less than 8 rounds per position, but which still favour 10 round magazines.
Example:
First position: 4 rounds
Second position: 6 rounds
Third Position: 2 rounds.
With a 10 or 8 round magazine, you can save a reload between a couple of the positions.
Example:
First position: 4 rounds
Second position: 6 rounds
Third Position: 2 rounds.
With a 10 or 8 round magazine, you can save a reload between a couple of the positions.
