IPSC with a revolver?
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Moonclips are definitely faster than speedloaders, but not absolutely necessary according to some. There are some people who can reload pretty quick with speedyloaders.
The standard out of the box IPSC revolver is the N-frame 625 in 45ACP. The ones that don'e have the 625 use a 586/686 S&W or GP100 Ruger. Some guys using the L frame 586/686 are machining them for moon clips, some are even machining the cylinders for 9mm or 38 super.
To be different I just picked up a k-frame S&W19 that I will use with Speedloaders, and if I can't get fast enough I will go to moonclips and trim my brass to 38 long Colt length for a shorter cartridge length. \
Hope that helps
Cheers
The standard out of the box IPSC revolver is the N-frame 625 in 45ACP. The ones that don'e have the 625 use a 586/686 S&W or GP100 Ruger. Some guys using the L frame 586/686 are machining them for moon clips, some are even machining the cylinders for 9mm or 38 super.
To be different I just picked up a k-frame S&W19 that I will use with Speedloaders, and if I can't get fast enough I will go to moonclips and trim my brass to 38 long Colt length for a shorter cartridge length. \
Hope that helps
Cheers
Since you are not set up why not go with an Auto. While I do have a revolver and its a plenty of fun I shoot ipsc with a 1911. The main reason everyone is if I shot with my revolver then I am alone in my class. I will definitely win my division everytime out. But if you are the only one in the divison then there is not much bragging rights to be had.
I shoot IPSC with a S&W 686 with speed loaders i shoot 38's out of and have alot of fun 
for me i dont care if im the only guy shooting revolver im out to better myself and not in it for braging rights . The 686 is nice and the only reason im using it is that i already had it if i was to buy a revolver for IPSC it would be a S&W 625 45cal and i would go with the moonclips
for me i dont care if im the only guy shooting revolver im out to better myself and not in it for braging rights . The 686 is nice and the only reason im using it is that i already had it if i was to buy a revolver for IPSC it would be a S&W 625 45cal and i would go with the moonclips
IPSC with a revolver
Ruger 22
Three of us, at our club, shoot a 625 in 45 ACP and another shooots a 610 ?? in 10mm. It is good fun competing among ourselves. The only problem is the guy that shoots the 610 is the Canadian, Ontario and Quebec IPSC revolver champ. One of the guys that shoots a 625 taught the 610 guy how to shoot. And he beats him frequently.
That leaves two us with 625's fighting for last place, which I usually win, unfortunately. But is great fun practising together, going to matches together and just hanging out.
If you really want a wheel gun, buy one. I only started IPSC last year and I am fortunate to be able to shoot what I want. But it was a wheel gun and I am VERY happy I went with one and will stick with it.
Ruger 22
Three of us, at our club, shoot a 625 in 45 ACP and another shooots a 610 ?? in 10mm. It is good fun competing among ourselves. The only problem is the guy that shoots the 610 is the Canadian, Ontario and Quebec IPSC revolver champ. One of the guys that shoots a 625 taught the 610 guy how to shoot. And he beats him frequently.
That leaves two us with 625's fighting for last place, which I usually win, unfortunately. But is great fun practising together, going to matches together and just hanging out.
If you really want a wheel gun, buy one. I only started IPSC last year and I am fortunate to be able to shoot what I want. But it was a wheel gun and I am VERY happy I went with one and will stick with it.
625 has a 5" barrel which IMO is the perfect balance in the N frame. It shoots the 45ACP which makes major and is set up for moonclips. Loading the short fat cartridges into the cylinder they practically jump in themselves.
I was going to get a 610 or 625 but am in a position I don't want to spend over a grand to get set up. I get a bit frustrated that there is the equipment race in revolver division (moonclips basically necessary to be competitive - to win) that plagues production division...but I am just going to practice and practice fast loading with the speedloaders before I go to moonclips. It'll be that much more satisfaction beating the moonclips [razz]
The idea behind shooting 38sp or shortened 28 sp in minor is that there will be less recoil and you have to get your A hits anyway so the minor shouldn't be a problem. It worked for the BC Provincials winner this year.
The 610 is another great one because it is set up for moon clips and can use the really short 40S&W cartridge and make major. It is hard to find unfortunately.
There is a new interest in BC and many of us are going/one strictly to revolver....maybe there will be a good showing of us at the Nationals.
N frame is a bit bigger than the L frame, the N frame is a big heavy gun and deals with recoil well, I shot 44 special at the Provincials and it worked well. L frame is easier to get accessories for.
Cheers
I was going to get a 610 or 625 but am in a position I don't want to spend over a grand to get set up. I get a bit frustrated that there is the equipment race in revolver division (moonclips basically necessary to be competitive - to win) that plagues production division...but I am just going to practice and practice fast loading with the speedloaders before I go to moonclips. It'll be that much more satisfaction beating the moonclips [razz]
The idea behind shooting 38sp or shortened 28 sp in minor is that there will be less recoil and you have to get your A hits anyway so the minor shouldn't be a problem. It worked for the BC Provincials winner this year.
The 610 is another great one because it is set up for moon clips and can use the really short 40S&W cartridge and make major. It is hard to find unfortunately.
There is a new interest in BC and many of us are going/one strictly to revolver....maybe there will be a good showing of us at the Nationals.
N frame is a bit bigger than the L frame, the N frame is a big heavy gun and deals with recoil well, I shot 44 special at the Provincials and it worked well. L frame is easier to get accessories for.
Cheers
ruger22 said:
I have a 5", but would have prefered a 4".
The balance is about perfect.
The grip is a little larger than the 686, but you can use Jerry Michulek grips that are small.
Ike:
Practice with speedloaders because you can be almost as fast some and faster than most that are using moonclips. Ask anyone who has seen me reload a revolver in IDPA/IPSC.
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I've got a Ruger GP-100 with a 4,5" barrel profesionally shortened, maybe I sell it if I could help someone start to shoot IPSC with revolver.
Let me know if serious.
Regards,
Robert
I've got a Ruger GP-100 with a 4,5" barrel profesionally shortened, maybe I sell it if I could help someone start to shoot IPSC with revolver.
Let me know if serious.
Regards,
Robert
Don't run out and get that done without consulting the rule book first ....after thinking about it I doubt this is legal for Revolver Standard. Rules say all you can do is machine and chamfer the cylinder for moon clips. I will have to ask to confirm yes or no.Ike said:
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Revolver In IPSC IS A Lot of Fun!
I think that IPSC Revlover is on the "Verge of Taking Off" from reading the posts here. I have enjoyed it for some time and have experimented with both the S&W Model 25/625 with moonclips as well as S&W N-Frame model 27 or Colt Python in Level I-II-III IPSC Matches.
The moonclips really are the most efficient as the best of 1917 WW I technology is still going for the gusto almost 90 years later. No knobs to turn or expensive components to recover after a 32 shot long match. In one instance one of my H&K speedloaders "disapppeared" for a month on a range before it was recovered out of the little grass pothole it was in. Also the moonclip holds all the fired cases together for instant recovery.
"Less Is More Eh!".
The IPSC Revolver-PPC Service Revolver-IDPA Enhanced/Standard Revolver all run together. Shooting one or more with the same rig means MORE Fun thats all. Best part is that DA revolver fire on the move can be done one handed at seven metres or less which seems to be the case with a lot of IPSC targets. Try it sometime.
One Rig and the same leather for THREE Action Pistol Sports applies the K.I.S.S. principle to PPC-IPSC-IDPA and "dare to dream" DCRA NSCC Service Pistol as well.
The .38 Special factory loads go for $11 a box of 50; the S&W 610 would be my pick if I could find one as the "Brass Train" is there versus the 45 ACP.
The N-Frame really soaks up the recoil with 38 Special loads.
Mr Ed McGivern did many of his "Fast and Fancy" revolver experiments and exhibitions with S&W N-frames; in 1937 he picked the S&W N frame Model 27 as the "Best of All Revolvers".
The 1930's FBI picked it as their issue sidearm.
In almost 2007 the popularity of the S&W Nframe 625 in five inch barrel echoes that choice 80 years later.
Another advantage of the S&W 610 N frame choice in 40S&W is that it will also make Major.
IF I could only have one pistol it would be a S&W Model 25 or 625 with "beaucoup moonclips". Just fill up your pockets and you are "good to go eh".
I think that IPSC Revlover is on the "Verge of Taking Off" from reading the posts here. I have enjoyed it for some time and have experimented with both the S&W Model 25/625 with moonclips as well as S&W N-Frame model 27 or Colt Python in Level I-II-III IPSC Matches.
The moonclips really are the most efficient as the best of 1917 WW I technology is still going for the gusto almost 90 years later. No knobs to turn or expensive components to recover after a 32 shot long match. In one instance one of my H&K speedloaders "disapppeared" for a month on a range before it was recovered out of the little grass pothole it was in. Also the moonclip holds all the fired cases together for instant recovery.
"Less Is More Eh!".
The IPSC Revolver-PPC Service Revolver-IDPA Enhanced/Standard Revolver all run together. Shooting one or more with the same rig means MORE Fun thats all. Best part is that DA revolver fire on the move can be done one handed at seven metres or less which seems to be the case with a lot of IPSC targets. Try it sometime.
One Rig and the same leather for THREE Action Pistol Sports applies the K.I.S.S. principle to PPC-IPSC-IDPA and "dare to dream" DCRA NSCC Service Pistol as well.
The .38 Special factory loads go for $11 a box of 50; the S&W 610 would be my pick if I could find one as the "Brass Train" is there versus the 45 ACP.
The N-Frame really soaks up the recoil with 38 Special loads.
Mr Ed McGivern did many of his "Fast and Fancy" revolver experiments and exhibitions with S&W N-frames; in 1937 he picked the S&W N frame Model 27 as the "Best of All Revolvers".
The 1930's FBI picked it as their issue sidearm.
In almost 2007 the popularity of the S&W Nframe 625 in five inch barrel echoes that choice 80 years later.
Another advantage of the S&W 610 N frame choice in 40S&W is that it will also make Major.
IF I could only have one pistol it would be a S&W Model 25 or 625 with "beaucoup moonclips". Just fill up your pockets and you are "good to go eh".
I am going to use a Ruger gp100 for the occasional match. One thing I noticed is that the top of the hammer strut needs polishing and oil, which smoothed things out a little, but it really needs a lowered spring kit. Another thing I noticed is that some speedloaders feed better than others. The plastic body of the speedloaders ride against the rubber grip high spot (where your thumb rides), this is something I can either experiment with different loaders, or remove some material from that part of the grip (which would basically butcher that part)
ANyone have a recommendation for speedloaders? I currently have a few twist HKS ones, and a few push-centre button no -name ones.
The Safariland Comp 2 or 3 speedloader and the Buffer technologies jetloader (looks similiar to the comp 3)
ANyone have a recommendation for speedloaders? I currently have a few twist HKS ones, and a few push-centre button no -name ones.
The Safariland Comp 2 or 3 speedloader and the Buffer technologies jetloader (looks similiar to the comp 3)
maurice said:
On my S&W I had to reshape a Pachmayr presentation grip to the shape that would allow speedloaders to fit and also to fit my hand well......looks bad but works well. Also I understand that the comp IIIs are the fastest speedloaders, I only have the HKSs but want to try the Comp IIIs. After that it is moonclips.
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