The handguard is not shown on the rifle in the pictures, was repairing a crack in it when I took the photos.
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Irish Mannlicher question-added some photos
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The handguard is not shown on the rifle in the pictures, was repairing a crack in it when I took the photos.
Thanks Smellie for that very fast answer.I'm basically without a camera to speak of these days,got one in the budget for the near future.The rifle itself is in not too bad a shape but has been through the mill as far as the bore goes,not in that great a shape and in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't pattern like a shotgun but we'll see hopefully not too far in the future,need to snag an enbloc,Woodstock gunshow this weekend so I'll see if there is one kicking around.I'm happy with the rifle even without shooting it at this point.
We need pics, please. Did I ever mention that I'm the president of the Vintage Classic Rifle Association of Ireland? www.vcrai.com
It will be very interesting for the lads over there to see a real piece of Irish history, so far from home.
TIA
tac
It will be very interesting for the lads over there to see a real piece of Irish history, so far from home.
TIA
tac
I'll see what I can come up with over the next little while,the camera I have isn't that great.I checked out the link to the VCRAI,looks like a great organisation and lots of smiles!
It sure is, in spite of the usually awful weather and the extreme difficulties put in the way of members by the PTB, we DO manage to have some great craic!
Tá tĂş ceart. In ainneoin an aimsir de ghnáth uafásach agus na deacrachtaĂ mhĂłr a bhĂonn ag ár gclub-bhaill, ag an rialtas agus na pĂłilĂnĂ, nĂ mĂłr dĂşinn roinnt craic iontach!
Best
tac
Irish Ulster Volunteer Force (Protestant Militia )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteers
It would appear the rifles used the early 88 cartridge ?
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann04.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Volunteers
It would appear the rifles used the early 88 cartridge ?
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann04.htm
Thanks for the kind offer but I think I'll hang onto the old gal for now.Picking up a new camera tomorrow so I can post some photos shortly.Not 100% sure about the show now because my extra coinage is taking a hit for the darn camera,hate going to a gunshow with only pocket change.Although the bacon sandwich may make it worth the effort!Sell the rifle to me and you can buy good cameraOn a serious note - if you're planning to hit tomorrows gun show in Woodstock PM me and bring over the rifle and I'll bring the camera to make pictures.
That is my understanding from the information I have read,I'm not sure if I can get an accurate slug on my barrel or not at this point as the bore is really worn,although it will probably benefit from a good cleaning.I'm willing to bet at this point a .318 bullet may not put up a lot of resistance!
The stock has been sanded but the serial number is still readable,there is at least one other stamping of some kind but I can't make it out.I'll post some pictures in the near future.
@ TAC:
Number 453 here, Tac, with Red Hand and FOR GOD AND ULSTER in the wood, very faint. Rifle is in awful condition but it is REAL..... and it isn't for sale, ever!
Will get some pics up soon as I find the camera. It's here somewhere, I know!
You have GOTTA be the only person on this forum who can make a post in Erse!
Number 453 here, Tac, with Red Hand and FOR GOD AND ULSTER in the wood, very faint. Rifle is in awful condition but it is REAL..... and it isn't for sale, ever!
Will get some pics up soon as I find the camera. It's here somewhere, I know!
You have GOTTA be the only person on this forum who can make a post in Erse!
Irish, please. My dad was a native speaker and left me a lot of it, along with irreplaceable memories, of course. He went to jail in 1921 for blowing up a police station in Co Cork - sentenced to fourteen years hard labour, and him just seventeen years old. He was released on the signing of the Truce, and joined the Free State Army, and spent the next two years trying not to find his brother, who was on the opposing side.
I'd be really grateful for pics, if you could email them to my home email - you have that, right?
My old pal Diopter was kind enough to post some pics of the other one on the VCRAI site, since he is clever, and I am not.
Best
tac
I'd be really grateful for pics, if you could email them to my home email - you have that, right?
My old pal Diopter was kind enough to post some pics of the other one on the VCRAI site, since he is clever, and I am not.
Best
tac
When people came to this country in the old days, it was very much a one-way trip. English became the common language more by common consent than anything else. You still find Old-Country languages in areas where there are a lot of people from a common culture (Plattdeutsch in the old Mennonite Reservations, some Icelandic in the old Republic of New Iceland). Cities, of course, are different although there is talk of making Mandarin or something the language of Vancouver!
For most folks there was not much opportunity to be bilingual unless you came with a solid language and then added English. Thus, Jan's family has lost all their Orkneyish over a couple of centuries, my family has lost Gaelic and Scotch (Lallans), both, in just over one; the Sassenach are winning, whether we like it or no'! Some of my friends can still get along in Ukrainski, a very few in Rom or Romanian but all of those are dying fast. The one group which IS preserving its language is the Indians who, around here, speak Dakota, Cree a bit farther North. Good to know that someone can do it!
Pics of 453 coming as soon as I can find the camera! I was using the film cameras and have misplaced the digital. Just hope the markings show well, though.
I shall now commence to study IRISH. Already, I find that I can say "Bushmill's" and "Guinness"; think I might start on "Jameson's" next! LOL!
For most folks there was not much opportunity to be bilingual unless you came with a solid language and then added English. Thus, Jan's family has lost all their Orkneyish over a couple of centuries, my family has lost Gaelic and Scotch (Lallans), both, in just over one; the Sassenach are winning, whether we like it or no'! Some of my friends can still get along in Ukrainski, a very few in Rom or Romanian but all of those are dying fast. The one group which IS preserving its language is the Indians who, around here, speak Dakota, Cree a bit farther North. Good to know that someone can do it!
Pics of 453 coming as soon as I can find the camera! I was using the film cameras and have misplaced the digital. Just hope the markings show well, though.
I shall now commence to study IRISH. Already, I find that I can say "Bushmill's" and "Guinness"; think I might start on "Jameson's" next! LOL!
Could we have a pic of that pretty please? I'm from said Ulster
. I om fluent in Norn Iron.That would double the value for some folks.
Edit: Never mind:
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At the Chilliwack Gun Show I picked up a copy of the "Military Arms Catalogue", 1999 by Old Town Station Dispatch.
On page 43 it has a picture of a 1904 Styre with the following information;
"IRE-316 Styre 1904 - 7.9mm, fine+overall; fine wood, cracked repair at wrist; exc metal' exc bore; exc mech; matching. Lovely ovoid stock cartouche: "U.V.F. ( Ulster Volunteer Force ) for God and Ulster", with the "Red Hand of Ulster" in the center. Not captured - rare. S/N 4866 $585
On page 43 it has a picture of a 1904 Styre with the following information;
"IRE-316 Styre 1904 - 7.9mm, fine+overall; fine wood, cracked repair at wrist; exc metal' exc bore; exc mech; matching. Lovely ovoid stock cartouche: "U.V.F. ( Ulster Volunteer Force ) for God and Ulster", with the "Red Hand of Ulster" in the center. Not captured - rare. S/N 4866 $585
As well as the Steyr 1904 Long Lee and .303" Martinis are found with the UVF stamp. The red hand is the "Red Hand of Ulster" or alternately the "Red Hand of O'Neil', O'Neil being a semi mythical chieftan engaged in a boat race the winner to be determined by the first hand to touch the opposite shore. O'Neil seeing that he was losing severed his hand and threw it ashore thus winning.
