Iron Sights vs Scope for BC Hunting

dgradinaru said:
. The open sight is better then the scope when a animal is running, easy to align the sights.
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thats not really true. Scopes are faster easier to pick up if you have a proper one mounted properly. I deer hunt with dogs for some of the time and i can tell you that those watchers who have scopes tend to shoot much better and have the clean kills. Everythings in one sighting plain the reticle is crisp and you just look to the opening and shoot.

That being said i use irons on my gun and 150 yards is doable for me
 
I prefer iron sights for most of my hunting but my results are much better with peep sights and my serious guns all have peep sights of one type or another.
 
ryan32 said:
thats not really true. Scopes are faster easier to pick up if you have a proper one mounted properly. I deer hunt with dogs for some of the time and i can tell you that those watchers who have scopes tend to shoot much better and have the clean kills. Everythings in one sighting plain the reticle is crisp and you just look to the opening and shoot.

That being said i use irons on my gun and 150 yards is doable for me
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I don't buy it. I've shot moving targets over irons and through glass, it is always easier over irons with a shooter who knows what he's doing. It's our natural way of seeing game, determining speed, distance, and the track/angle from the shooter; in our own vision. Looking through glass messes with that balance, there's a reason why you don't see scopes on wingshooting shotguns.
 
Ardent said:
I don't buy it. I've shot moving targets over irons and through glass, it is always easier over irons with a shooter who knows what he's doing. It's our natural way of seeing game, determining speed, distance, and the track/angle from the shooter; in our own vision. Looking through glass messes with that balance, there's a reason why you don't see scopes on wingshooting shotguns.
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I agree. I have found it easier to judge running shots with iron sights than with a scope, even a low power one.


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Ardent said:
I don't buy it. I've shot moving targets over irons and through glass, it is always easier over irons with a shooter who knows what he's doing. It's our natural way of seeing game, determining speed, distance, and the track/angle from the shooter; in our own vision. Looking through glass messes with that balance, there's a reason why you don't see scopes on wingshooting shotguns.
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:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:
 
While everyone has to make the decision for themselves, for me a 3x9 scope is a valueable asset for BC hunting.

I know that there are people out there who shoot better with irons...but they are a small minority of iron sight enthusiasts, while the rest of us benefit greatly from a good scope.

I am also going to challenge the assertion that in BC, hunting is going to be a sub 200yard affair...most clear cuts are way wider than that.

So anyways...I vote that you scope it.
 
legi0n said:
That's different. A soldier does not need to be killed. Having him/her wounded is costlier.
Game animals though must be killed as efficient and painless as possible.
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I wonder when this myth will die? :rolleyes:

Truth is they shot the enemy to kill them and most were very skilled at it becouse it was a kill or be killed situation.
 
I have 2 hunting rifles. a 22" marlin 45-70 and at-3 lite in 6.5x55.

Open sights on the lever gun absolutely, I wouldn't shoot at something more than 150 away.

A Bausch and Lomb Elite 3000 2-7x32 scope on the t-3 is perfect. 2x is great for when I am likely to hop out of the truck or hunting thick bush. The ability to turn it up to 7 makes it 300 yards capable for me when I am hunting cut blocks. It's 8.5" low at 300, so that's far enough for me. I know it can do more.

Most of the deer I have ever shot are under 60 yards so it's negligible. I do like the extra time at the beginning and end of the day with the scope though. My irons get fuzzy earlier.
 
I've been targeting the hardest of all deer in the world to hunt = trophy coastal Blacktail this fall every rifle I have packed while hunting has had a scope mounted and I hunt from alpine to clearcuts, bluffs and heavy bush.

Shots can be from 10 yards to 400 yards, scope magnifications were either 2-7X or 3-9X on one of my T/C Contender carbines in either 308Bellm/375JDJ/45 Colt/45-70 or my XCR-L in 6.8SPC that has a 4.5-14X Varmint reticle scope mounted with Leupold PRW rings that if I wanted I could also pop off I keep a torx wrench in the pistol grip and install flip up ghost ring sights.

The 375JDJ/45 Colt/45-70 are all set up with quick detachable Leupold QRW or Warne scope rings so I can pop the scope off quickly if I want I just don't want to.
 
Calum said:
I wonder when this myth will die? :rolleyes:

Truth is they shot the enemy to kill them and most were very skilled at it becouse it was a kill or be killed situation.
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Calum you must be airforce or even worse reserve lol just joking! Sure we were trained to kill but we were also tought that wounding an enemy is better for breaking down their morale and taking people out of the fight! Mental warfare if you wanna call it that.
 
Ardent said:
I don't buy it. I've shot moving targets over irons and through glass, it is always easier over irons with a shooter who knows what he's doing. It's our natural way of seeing game, determining speed, distance, and the track/angle from the shooter; in our own vision. Looking through glass messes with that balance, there's a reason why you don't see scopes on wingshooting shotguns.
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Im going by my experince. I shoot running target with irons my self as well but the difference is when your shooting with irons its harder to pick up a small tree that is in the way when your changing your focus onto the sight or animal or whatever. With a scope its there your aiming point is there and the lanes are all there. The key is to know how to shoot a scope using both eyes.

I would agree though if you know how to use irons then it gets negligable and also having very good vison is important to picking up the lanes and small crap blocking it, which IIRC you have stated your vision is 20/10 or something like that.

As for wingshooting its a diffrent game entirely. Your not making a precison shot through one lane with a single projectile , your blasting a bunch of them which will make it past the brush or heavy branch blocking your shot.

I should also qualify this by saying my excperince is only in the heavier brush if its more open territory than it really wouldn't matter

Edit- i would also say there is a reason why you see glass on most military and police rifles and that is for speed and precison.
 
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