IRunGuns now offers Temporary Import from Canada to the USA for Custom Work

Yes, that is correct. If you are permanently importing the firearm into the US we are required to engrave the importers makings. A good example is Glock. Every Glock that is imported into the US from Austria has Glock importers markings on the receiver. We use the latest laser technology to ensure it looks amazing when you receive it.


Gundoggy said:
Out of curiosity, if a US made firearm is exported to Canada, and later the owner imports the firearm to the USA when they relocate to live in the USA, will the US made firearm require an importation stamp??
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IRUNGUNS said:
Yes, that is correct. If you are permanently importing the firearm into the US we are required to engrave the importers makings. A good example is Glock. Every Glock that is imported into the US from Austria has Glock importers markings on the receiver. We use the latest laser technology to ensure it looks amazing when you receive it.
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My question specifically is about a custom gun that's built by an American gunsmith using a base gun that was manufactured in USA (Colt 1911) and purchased from the USA. The gun will be exported from USA to Canada (by IRG of course) in 2019 as I am the Canadian purchaser. If in the future I decide to move to the USA and take this gun with me, will this gun, which is manufactured in the USA (not Austria like Glock), and customized in the USA by an American gunsmith require stampings that may significantly decrease the value of the pistol?? Or are their provisions for such markings to be more inconspicuous, example on grip frame underneath wooden grip or perhaps laser engraved on bottom of mainspring housing, or perhaps bottom of dust cover due to the unusual value of the pistol??? Basically, does a USA manufactured gun that goes to Canada and then back require import markings???
 
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Gundoggy said:
My question specifically is about a custom gun that's built by an American gunsmith using a base gun that was manufactured in USA (Colt 1911) and purchased from the USA. The gun will be exported from USA to Canada (by IRG of course) in 2019 as I am the Canadian purchaser. If in the future I decide to move to the USA and take this gun with me, will this gun, which is manufactured in the USA (not Austria like Glock), and customized in the USA by an American gunsmith require stampings that may significantly decrease the value of the pistol?? Or are their provisions for such markings to be more inconspicuous, example on grip frame underneath wooden grip or perhaps laser engraved on bottom of mainspring housing, or perhaps bottom of dust cover due to the unusual value of the pistol??? Basically, does a USA manufactured gun that goes to Canada and then back require import markings???
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Yes, the custom pistol you describe will require import markings. Not all importers engrave the same way, some are much less conspicuous than others.
 
Thank you for your response.

IRUNGUNS said:
Yes, unfortunately they do.
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I submitted an email to the BAFTE in the US where I asked the following question: "I would like to permanently import some antique firearms to the US. These antiquefirearms were originally manufactured in the US prior to 1899. Would these firearms be subject to import marking regulations?"

I received a reply from <Imports@usdoj.gov>: "Hi, under the Gun Control Act, antiques are defined, in part, as being manufactured
in or before 1898. If the gun is an antique, there are no import regulations applicable, thank you."

Now I am confused. Perhaps the regulations are different fora business as opposed to an individual. Could you point me to the regulations that require IRUNGUNS to permanently mark antique firearms imported from Canada to the US?
 
Well I'm not too sure what to say, the Director at the Imports branch of the ATF disagrees with you and they regulate all firearm imports into the U.S. Please forward that email to admin@irunguns.us and we will ask for a written ruling for you and then we will both have it in writing.

Have a great weekend!!!

The US IRUNGUNS Team




powderman said:
Thank you for your response.



I submitted an email to the BAFTE in the US where I asked the following question: "I would like to permanently import some antique firearms to the US. These antiquefirearms were originally manufactured in the US prior to 1899. Would these firearms be subject to import marking regulations?"

I received a reply from <Imports@usdoj.gov>: "Hi, under the Gun Control Act, antiques are defined, in part, as being manufactured
in or before 1898. If the gun is an antique, there are no import regulations applicable, thank you."

Now I am confused. Perhaps the regulations are different fora business as opposed to an individual. Could you point me to the regulations that require IRUNGUNS to permanently mark antique firearms imported from Canada to the US?
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The Director at the Imports Branch does not disagree with me, I just asked a question. He disagrees with the answer I got from one of his employees. It will be interesting to hear what the top of the totem pole has to say.

Regards
 
powderman said:
The Director at the Imports Branch does not disagree with me, I just asked a question. He disagrees with the answer I got from one of his employees. It will be interesting to hear what the top of the totem pole has to say.

Regards
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I was also under the impression that 1898 made guns and earlier were exempt from requiring importers markings.. also can't you get specific exemptions for rare and valuable guns (not sure how the US law defines what makes a gun rare or valuable) or how that would work.
 
In response to our query from the ATF.

The Gun Control Act (GCA), title 18, U.S.C. §921(a)(16), defines “antique firearm” as:

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or
(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica—(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (ii) uses rim fire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade; or
(C) any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition….

The GCA specifically exempts “antique firearms” from the definition of “firearm” and, therefore, the importation of antique firearms is not regulated by the GCA. Pursuant to Title 27, C.F.R. § 478.115(c), antique firearms may be imported into the United States without the ATF Form 6 permit application or any other documentation from this office. However, the importer of the antique firearm(s) must provide U.S. Customs officials with a Certificate of Authenticity or other satisfactory documentation signed by the foreign seller/source if the antique firearm’s year of manufacture is not visibly marked on the firearm. See the enclosed ATF I 5330.16 for further details.

I hope this helps... If we can provide the required documentation permanent importation on Antique firearms will not require the importers markings to be engraved on the firearm.



powderman said:
The Director at the Imports Branch does not disagree with me, I just asked a question. He disagrees with the answer I got from one of his employees. It will be interesting to hear what the top of the totem pole has to say.

Regards
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Yes, we now have that ability. Should you not be able to get the work done in Canada, we will make it happen south of the border.


The IRUNGUNS Team


B said:
Can this be used to send guns for warranty work? I don't see why not but a clear yes or no would be great.
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My concern is more the reputation for sucking that a lot of Canadian warranty centers have. For instance I have a Ruger revolver that is likely going to need work but rather than deal with Snapshots I would like to send it directly to Ruger in the US.
 
If the firearm is purchased from us we will ship it directly back to the Manufacturer for warranty work, in this case you can use this service and your firearm will go to Ruger in Prescott which is about 3 1/2 hours away from us. If you are having issues, the Manufacturer is always the best place to send it. If it can't be easily fixed they will replace it. Should that happen we will also look after the transfers and export to get it back in your hands.

Have a great weekend.

The IRUNGUNS Team


B said:
My concern is more the reputation for sucking that a lot of Canadian warranty centers have. For instance I have a Ruger revolver that is likely going to need work but rather than deal with Snapshots I would like to send it directly to Ruger in the US.
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IRUNGUNS said:
Class 3 is NFA are you referring to re-barreling prohibited firearms that are currently in Canada that will require temp export to the US? If so, yes we can do that as well.
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(tried to ask this of Amber, but my email must have gone into the abyss)

What would be the process for this? Original owner or his estate get an ATT and send you the 12.6 firearm, you export and forward to the gunsmith, gunsmith does the work and sends it back to you, you change the registration to restricted and register to the new owner and send to him?

I'm guessing there is not going to be any requirement that the original barrel is destroyed - can be stored in the US in case the laws ever change for the better? (Ha! I know!)

Anything I'm missing?
 
How much would it cost to permanently move a firearm from Canada to States one way.

For example, if the Liberal government really deploy a AR ban and do mass confiscation , I would just give my AR to my friend down the south.
 
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