Is 2 3/4 enough for a "tactical" shot gun?

Thanks for the replies guys, I knew some one would know.

And the rats in Ontario have evolved. They lost their tail and now walk on two legs vs four. I think the problem in my area is that I am too close to two of the most overrun rat colonies in Canada, Toronto and Ottawa. :roll: Good thing there are still a few cats around. :twisted:
 
Hell if your using it for tactical reasons a good 20 gauge is great. Usually the guns are lighter, recoil is less, recovery time is less and they don't shake your brains around as much. Just about as effective as the 12 gauge but more user friendly.
 
Regarding 3" out of a 2.75 receiver on the wingmaster - if you have a 3" barrel all you need to do is have the ejector (?) exchanged that is mounted on the inside of the receiver.
 
RePete, do you have any advice on deciding if a particular receiver is too old to do this safely? Many of us have no idea the actual age or history of the shotgun.
 
The 2&3/4 Does IT All EH

In my opinion all you really need is a 2&3/4" 12 ga in all the assorted shot sizes. There is a Rem Model 10 (From 1910) on this CGN Board with an asking price of $150.00 that is WWI and again in WWII were the USA Trench Warfare and Pacific Theatre IWO JIMA "tactical clearing house" arms.
Ever looked CLOSELY at a Rem 10 or M-29 or M-31? The Model 29 has NO openings whatsover on the sides of its receiver; a solid block of steel with "umpteen dozen" machining operations so that the 2&3/4 shells feed from the bottom;fire and then eject from the same cut.
Try working the action sometime! I have a Rem Model 29 that I got for $150.00 several years ago. NO plastic parts in 1929! Pity eh!

Gen Pershing in WWI ordered 50,000 or more Model 97 "Trench Guns" which the Kaiser thought were "inhumane" in WWI Combat. He thought the use of 2&3/4" 12ga in Model 97's violated the Geneva Convention on "humane warfare".
Tactically they stood up well in WWI and again in WWII.
Imagaine 1000's of Model 97's opening up with that "puny??"
2&3/4 chambering eh!
I am so old that in my teenage years all you could commonly get were 2&3/4" chamberings in 12ga. All my duck hunting or varmit shooting including "charging rabid skunks" proved that 2&3/4" was all that was required eh!
Better yet, it is "ridiculously inexpensive" in lead loads now. Enjoy it while you can.
For all all round shotgun a 3" or 3&1/2" chambering would be good so it would take ANY shotgun fodder. Sometimes you just cant get what you want. The 2&3/4" would be like shooting a .22 Short in a 22 Long Rifle chamber in a 3&1/2" chambering.
 
cariboo_kid:

Many of the gunmakers have codes, I have the remington codes.

Calum:

Read what it says on the barrel...if it says you can then you can.
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Be careful what you advise, because Remington 2 3/4" receivers will take a barrel chambered in 3" and if you fire a 3" in it there will be problems.

RePete.
 
The barrel tells you what the max is, but the receiver, if 2 3/4" will limit the 3" barrel to 2 3/4".

IIRC: Mossberg never made a 2 3/4" pump gun.

RePete.
 
RePete said:
The barrel tells you what the max is, but the receiver, if 2 3/4" will limit the 3" barrel to 2 3/4".

IIRC: Mossberg never made a 2 3/4" pump gun.

RePete.
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Huh?
Wait a min' then what do I have?
Check out the link again:
http://www.maverickarms.com/pages/88security.htm

88™ model barrels are equipped with 3" chambers and handle factory 2¾" and 3" loads.
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And this is what it says on the barrel also.
So what ammo do I buy?

BTW: Sorry to Hijack this thread.
 
Calum:

You're good to go with both, it's just that some of the early Rem receivers were made for 2 3/4" only - smaller ejection port, and the 3" cmabered barrels will fit.

RePete.
 
So what ammo do I buy?
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The 'experts' say 2-3/4" are best for home defense, the slight advantage of a 3" is negligable in home defense. Also that #1 Buck is better suited than 00 or 0. Slugs generally are not rec'd. Google "Shotgun home defense" and "home defense shot gun ammunition" and you will get several interesting articles regarding....
 
The police seem to be pretty content with low recoil 00 buck and slug. They work pretty well on anything less maybe a big bear.
 
redleg said:
The police seem to be pretty content with low recoil 00 buck and slug. They work pretty well on anything less maybe a big bear.
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Do police ever worry about 'over penetration' or possibley going through a wall and people in the next room? I would guess that if they had such an incident, that they would likely be exhonorated with much more ease than you or I.....Seems every source that I can find, or the vast majority of...suggest 2-3/4" #1 Buck....
 
I prefer OObuck because that is what I have shot the most of and I have a good idea of where it's going.

Echo4lima- not trying to argue with you too much, but all the sources I have tapped suggest OObuck. When I did my defensive shotgun course with sigarms academy I know that of the 3 instructors that I asked there about it, they all suggested OObuck.

I know of at least one police force that exclusively uses low recoil slugs. No buckshot for fear of errant pellets ending up where they're not supposed to be. I think if that is their major concern they should be using a 5.56 carbine, but no asks for my opinion :|
 
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