Is .38sp on the "bad list" of caliber

Antiques are:

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Rifles:

manufactured before 1898 that can discharge only rim-fire cartridges, other than 22 Calibre Short, 22 Calibre Long or 22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges;
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges (whether with a smooth or rifled bore), have a bore diameter of 8.3 mm or greater, measured from land to land in the case of a rifled bore, with the exception of a repeating firearm fed by any type of cartridge magazine


Shotguns:

manufactured before 1898 that can discharge only rim-fire cartridges, other than 22 Calibre Short, 22 Calibre Long or 22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges;
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges, other than 10, 12, 16, 20, 28, or 410 gauge cartridges


Handguns:

manufactured before 1898 that can discharge only rim-fire cartridges, other than 22 Calibre Short, 22 Calibre Long or 22 Calibre Long Rifle cartridges;
manufactured before 1898 that can discharge centre-fire cartridges, other than a handgun designed or adapted to discharge 32 Short Colt, 32 Long Colt, 32 Smith and Wesson, 32 Smith and Wesson Long, 32-20 Winchester, 38 Smith and Wesson; 38 Short Colt, 38 Long Colt, 38-40 Winchester, 44-40 Winchester, or 45 Colt cartridges

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I think the key words in SOR 98-464 is the line that reads "can discharge. Guns chambered for 38 plus P, 38 special and 357 magnum should have chambers which are .007" smaller than those for 38 S&W. What you need to confirm is that the gun you have in mind does not have a chamber sufficiently oversize to admit a 38 S&W.

cheers mooncoon
 
my colt in 38 Special
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Southlander said:
IMO, If it is the cylinder is factory built or stamped 38 special then it's clearly OK. When you get into modifying cylinders to chamber 38 special it could be more of a problem to prove it isn't 38LC.
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if you going to shoot 38 special its a Much better idea to buy a new aftermarket cylinder. then you can shoot nice smokeless rd's
 
This Post is just confuseing some CGN Members.
Im editing this post to let them know this

Its Not what cartridge happens to fit in the gun that matters.. its what the gun is chambered in that makes the gun either a perscribed antique or not antique.

Remember lots of WG Armys can and do shoot and cycle 45 long colt but still have antique status.
Why because the guns were chambered in 455/476 not 45 long colt the fact a 45 long colt happens to fit and cycle in the gun and shoot fine does not remove its antique status.
 
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esquif said:
what about 357 mag, i am starting a colt saa project and i dont know if i should go 44 sp or 357 mag ??
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Here's the flow chart of prescribed antiques. That flow chart is easy to understand and will definetly help you in the future for any other calibers you're wondering about. Short answer is it's not on the no go list.

Now my question would be can the antique frame handle .357? Always wondered that.
 
For what its worth when colt introduced the .357 on the SAA they made a change to strengthen the frame, the fouling cutout in the top strap was eliminated.
 
esquif said:
what about 357 mag, i am starting a colt saa project and i dont know if i should go 44 sp or 357 mag ??
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Go .44sp. The .357 can get pretty hot. Yes you can down load it, but you may not be in possession of it forever, and it would be a shame to see an old SAA get damaged, not to mention an injury to an unsuspecting shooter.
 
I gotta say, what really bothers me about these threads is that all this info is super easy to come across. The no-go list isn't a mythical thing, it's on the CFC website for all to see. Talking about all this is not a good thing IMHO.
 
tactical870 said:
I gotta say, what really bothers me about these threads is that all this info is super easy to come across. The no-go list isn't a mythical thing, it's on the CFC website for all to see. Talking about all this is not a good thing IMHO.
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While I'm sure the gun grabbers already want to squash our current relatively unbothered antiques hobby, these sorts of discussions for all too see probably don't do anything to help the cause so I guess I have to agree with you.
 
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