Is 8.5" too short?

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I am looking for a 10/22 and was wondering if I purchased a basic model then swapped out the barrel for an 8.5 or 12 inch barrel would that be

A) useless and silly as a plinking/fun gun
B) make it restricted?

I think it still would measure 26" OAL or more.
Just looking to have a gun that is small and non restricted that we can carry and have fun with when in the bush. Any ideas, pluses and minuses?
 
Nothing is useless as a plinking/fun gun! And to be honest, the 22 usually doesn't need more than 16" for max velocity, so I'd imagine a 12" still gets respectable velocity.

The standard 10/22 carbine OAL is 37" and the barrel is 18.5". This means that an 8" should satisfy the 26" OAL requirement. (I would measure everything personally just to be sure.) However, a barrel has to be 12" or greater to go past the barrel band, so you need to do careful planning about what stock you will use if you want an 8" barrel.

Personally, I think a 12" build would be fun, and would give my significant other a light, fun gun to shoot. I'm curious if we can buy 12" stainless sporter-contour barrels.
 
I have a nordic build with a12.5 barrel and with the ar muzzle break its 27.2 inches from butt to break with a magpul m93 stock fully colpsed...and its a frigging blast to shoot, I think 8.5 barrel was a charger barrel and imho and mine only that it would look goofy on a rifle just 2 short but each to there own :)
 
You mean like this? 26 1/2" OAL, 8.5" Dlask barrel, light & compact, fixed butler creek stock, 50 rd drum mag......

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Yes, that's pretty much her. Looks like it would be a blast. You describe it as a fixed stock. Is that a typo or is the stock altered to be permanently in the open position? If it folded would that make it be another class?
I'm thinking that if she can't fold than I will use a regular (traditional) type synthetic stock. Just not sure if one can be store bought or if it would have to be altered after the purchase in order to accommodate an 8.5" barrel like mango pointed out.

Ideally I would like to have the setup of the Hogue tactical model but with the barrel shortened to where the stock starts but I dont think I'm allowed to to that, even if we could it does not sit well with me for paying for a improved barrel just to cut some off. Especially when there are barrels available for such a project. To pay for that model and do anything other than improve it kinda seems like a waste.

Is it possible to build a comparable "looking" tactical 10/22 for roughly the same cost ($550) ? 8.5 or 12.5 inch barrel, synthetic stock, bi-pod ?
My firearm knowledge is extremely limited so thanks for the input folks and off to do some more reading
 
Gun needs to be over 26" to be non restricted so the stock is welded open. as a folder it would be restricted. You need to shorted the stock for the 8.5. You cannot cut your own barrel less than 18". PM us as we do custom builds. This is what it looks like in the restricted setup.

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wizzard1717 said:
I am looking for a 10/22 and was wondering if I purchased a basic model then swapped out the barrel for an 8.5 or 12 inch barrel would that be

A) useless and silly as a plinking/fun gun
B) make it restricted?

I think it still would measure 26" OAL or more.
Just looking to have a gun that is small and non restricted that we can carry and have fun with when in the bush. Any ideas, pluses and minuses?
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a) Barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy. Shorter barrels are stiffer and actually may offer slightly better accuracy in the end.

b) Keep your OAL over 26" and it stays non-restricted.

As for ideas, I think a full stock 10/22 would balance better with a medium to heavy 12" barrel than the 8.5", but that is just my opinion. I haven't actually handled an 8.5" version to be sure.


agent_mango said:
Nothing is useless as a plinking/fun gun! And to be honest, the 22 usually doesn't need more than 16" for max velocity, so I'd imagine a 12" still gets respectable velocity.
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I have seen data that indicates max velocity anywhere between 12"-16" for .22LR standard and high velocity ammo (not stinger's and the other hyper velocity stuff), so a 12" should give up very little if anything to a 16" barrel.


agent_mango said:
Personally, I think a 12" build would be fun, and would give my significant other a light, fun gun to shoot. I'm curious if we can buy 12" stainless sporter-contour barrels.
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Contact Mystic Precision, I think he can get SS Shilen 10/22 barrels. Not sure on the minimum length available, though. I bought a Shilen match barrel for the 77/22 and they wouldn't ship anything shorter than 16". That is all I wanted, so it was no problem for my uses.


hical.ca said:
You mean like this? 26 1/2" OAL, 8.5" Dlask barrel, light & compact, fixed butler creek stock, 50 rd drum mag......

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That thing cries out for a vertical foregrip, ala Thompson SMG. Very sweet.


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
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Contact Mystic Precision, I bought a Shilen match barrel for the 77/22 and they wouldn't ship anything shorter than 16".

Mark
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No U.S. barrel make will make a 22 barrel under 16 inches, you will have to have a competent smith in Canada cut it down. Makes it a short barrel rifle which is a real hassle in the U.S. FWIW
 
dizzy said:
No U.S. barrel make will make a 22 barrel under 16 inches, you will have to have a competent smith in Canada cut it down. Makes it a short barrel rifle which is a real hassle in the U.S. FWIW
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I just bought a 12.5" McGowan barrel from Mystic, are they cut down north of the 49th?


Mark
 
wizzard1717 said:
I am looking for a 10/22 and was wondering if I purchased a basic model then swapped out the barrel for an 8.5 or 12 inch barrel would that be

A) useless and silly as a plinking/fun gun
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No. I bought a take-off 10" charger barrel for a project and it is great. I would say in my case, the only problem is the crude sights I made.
 
one thing to note that in BC and I have no idea about other provinces is you cannot hunt with any firearm having a barrel less than 12 inches, worth checking into if anyone plans on hunting with them
 
Good point. We (I) sometimes get caught up with one side of the "what is the minimum" when building a rifle and forget about the big picture. Mag capacity, oal, etc is what a lot of people focus on but there is often more to it. I will be looking into what Sask specifies.
 
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