Is a semi worth it

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Im done wasting time going in circles with this. Your statement was false....period! You are apparently under the assumption that inertia guns is the only system that has evolved. I cant help you understand that you are wrong

or I understand the difference between refinements and overhauls. It's seems to me that you misunderstood (and took personally) my first post and now you're just arguing in circles to make it seem like you didn't.
 
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You just made my point.

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or I understand the difference between refinements and overhauls. It's seems to me that you misunderstood (and took personally) my first post and now you're just arguing in circles to make it seem like you didn't.

I don't take anything personally. Besides I dislike Beretta semis just as much as I dislike Benelli semis. I shoot Brownings

And you have gone 360 since you were called out on your false statement
 
I'm 62, but the number of rounds I fire in a days hunting is not beating me to death yet. I don't care for semis in general, but the few that I have enjoyed have all been inertial-operated ones, which don't do much to reduce recoil. I know gas guns supposedly shoot softer, but I just don't like the concept or the cleaning. For utility, give me a pump. To add some class to the experience, give me a double (SxS, please).

So you'd rather clean a double than a modern semi? Even after they've both been through water/swamp/dirt/snow? If you think that cleaning a double is easier than a modern semi I'd hate to be the guy who purchases your doubles secondhand....
 
Which gas operated shotguns from the 60s could shoot light target loads to 3-1/2" waterfowl loads reliably?

You know browning golds are based on the winchester super x1 design and more like it than not.
But really the question is not relative since they were designed for the ammo available and 3 1/2 wasn't but the X1 sure could handle 3 1/2 no problem if opened to do so since it is and called browning gold
Cheers
 
You know browning golds are based on the winchester super x1 design and more like it than not.
But really the question is not relative since they were designed for the ammo available and 3 1/2 wasn't but the X1 sure could handle 3 1/2 no problem if opened to do so since it is and called browning gold
Cheers

The point is, that the gas operated guns have been constantly refined, so we now have shotguns that will handle loads from 3/4 ounce, to 3-1/2". The old 1100s and Beretta 3001 etc would either handle 2-3/4" or 3", even though both chamber lengths existed.
 
The point is, that the gas operated guns have been constantly refined, so we now have shotguns that will handle loads from 3/4 ounce, to 3-1/2". The old 1100s and Beretta 3001 etc would either handle 2-3/4" or 3", even though both chamber lengths existed.

No idea what point you are trying to make
The original 1100 mag will handle both if the 2 3/4 are mags and switch a barrel and they will handle target
Cheers
 
Cleaning a gas gun is easy, as long as you use a modern CLP product on the gas system. Wipe the dirty lube off with a rag, re-apply. Done.
 
No idea what point you are trying to make
The original 1100 mag will handle both if the 2 3/4 are mags and switch a barrel and they will handle target
Cheers

The point is, the new designs can handle pretty much any commercial load, with no switching of parts, the original designs could not do this. This versatility, is one reason that semi autos have become so common.
 
The point is, the new designs can handle pretty much any commercial load, with no switching of parts, the original designs could not do this. This versatility, is one reason that semi autos have become so common.

With no switching of parts I agree, some needed rings changed, some extra barrels etc
Cheers
 
Most guys will shoot a semi better than a pump just from less flinching and movement from less recoil
Also I hear guys saying they can shoot a pump as well as a semi
Well years ago when the clubs were full of model 12's and wingmasters I would agree with that but a long time since I seen a guy really operate a pump to keep up with a semi
Theses were guys putting 10/25000 rounds a year though one a year and pretty to watch :)
Many dream and think they can however today but they are funny to watch LOL
Cheers
 
Most guys will shoot a semi better than a pump just from less flinching and movement from less recoil
Also I hear guys saying they can shoot a pump as well as a semi
Well years ago when the clubs were full of model 12's and wingmasters I would agree with that but a long time since I seen a guy really operate a pump to keep up with a semi
Theses were guys putting 10/25000 rounds a year though one a year and pretty to watch :)
Many dream and think they can however today but they are funny to watch LOL
Cheers

Good post.
 
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