I have a friend (no, seriously) who has taken possession of an 1875 Belgian Bulldog in .32 Colt Short from a 90-year-old relative that recently moved into an assisted care facility. So it's either not a firearm under our laws or seriously prohibited and I'm hoping someone here can let me know before I contact the RCMP. Age-wise, it's old enough to qualify as not a firearm, so it comes down to whether or not .32 Colt Short is considered an "available" centre-fire cartridge as I understand it. Anybody know? If not, exactly who should I call to find out officially?
Is an 1875 Belgian Bulldog in .32 Colt Short prohibited or not even a firearm?
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As stated above, the 32 is on the list of cartridges preventing it from being classified as antique. While other Bulldogs have been classified as antique, they are not 32cal(in fact 44 or others). Have seen the same thing with a S&W from 1874. Certainly an antique by age, but because its a 22short, it remains classified as a prohib. Like usual, none of this makes sense.
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A pointy stock is a firearms if you say it is while committing a crime. So is a shovel or a potato. An antique is classified as a non-firearm under the firearms act and need not comply with any onerous rules.
It's more like a .22 rifle that you carry in a lock box; it doesn't tether you to an LTATT and range. That's the coolest part.
OP, unless it's clearly marked 32 short colt...be careful assuming that it is. I've seen a Belgian that was registered as a 44-40, turned out it wasn't ( slightly larger cylinder chamber than a 44-40). The previous owner did the legwork and got it de-registered ( term?).
The caliber was unknown, but it wasn't a 44-40, that's the main thing. So if it's unmarked; any slight variation in cylinder size from a 32 Short Colt is a point in your favor.
Ponder it and check it over well; lot's of obscure European cartridges that "could be" should a 32 Colt fit less than perfect. You need to be able to make an informed, documented argument as to why it's not a 32 Colt.
Like another member said 320 is a common European cartridge.
Drive around with it on your front seat when you get pulled over speeding, or walk into a police station with it strapped on your hip, or walk into a grocery store with it sticking out of your pants, or fire your "not a gun" in your back yard in town ...no crime being committed but #### will hit the fan.
Just saying if you don't treat it like a gun, then you are setting yourself up for a world of hurt.
I know you were not quoting me, so I'm not arguing with you...but treat it like a .22 rifle with added storage and transport requirements. Store and transport it like a restricted handgun and you will be alright.
And obviously you wouldn't walk into a bank or police station with your .22 cooey, right? The same with shooting it in town.
Funny; some folks hate that 'Antiques' exist and love to de-nigrate antiques and their owners...go figure?
And obviously you wouldn't walk into a bank or police station with your .22 cooey, right? The same with shooting it in town.
Funny; some folks hate that 'Antiques' exist and love to de-nigrate antiques and their owners...go figure?
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Please peddle st@pid somewhere else.
What part of that offends your ovaries? I'm just saying be responsible with it, it's a firearm, treat it like a firearm. I think calling it "not a firearm" is misleading and could get some dumbass in trouble. Just because there are no "paper crimes" associated with antiques, doesn't mean there aren't dozens of other charges you can get hammered with while being an idiot....then trying to claim it's "not a firearm" isn't much of a defense. Older fellow use to shoot at a range I use to belong to, had that same attitude, carried it under his car seat everywhere he went. Guess what? It didn't work out too well for him....
Be smart.
Brutus
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You assume everyone else was as stupid as him without actually meeting them in person.
Only thing I'm assuming is there are a lot of "new & unfamiliar with firearms" members on this board now that read things like this. I wouldn't want them to buy an antique and treat it as "not a firearm". The only way antique status would ever get ####ed over is by antique owners themselves.
And yeah, there are more irresponsible gun owners out there today then ever before, and it only takes a few to #### it for the rest of us. Take a look at the firearms news section sometime and see for yourself.
antique revolver is an antique firearm.
its only a firearm if used in a crime. if you stick up a bank with a pellet gun or a wooden gun then you'll likely still get armed robbery...
a steak knife is just that until you stab someone. then ts a deadly weapon.
For some reason it states that antique handguns should be locked in a container.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/antique-historique-eng.htm
There are many European calibers that are similar, so you may be able to find out for sure. .32 short colt seems unusual for a European gun...
its only a firearm if used in a crime. if you stick up a bank with a pellet gun or a wooden gun then you'll likely still get armed robbery...
a steak knife is just that until you stab someone. then ts a deadly weapon.
For some reason it states that antique handguns should be locked in a container.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/antique-historique-eng.htm
There are many European calibers that are similar, so you may be able to find out for sure. .32 short colt seems unusual for a European gun...
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Criminal code reference?
This would applied to any if those situations I made reference to. Does not need to be used in a crime before it's considered a "firearm".... Because guess what? Your antique firearm is....a FIREARM!
http://yourlaws.ca/criminal-code-canada/86-careless-use-firearm-etc
