Is collectorssource the only source in Canada for collectors
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I dunno, bud. A deac is pretty well a dead piece of steel. To quote your own sig line, "if you cant drive it, sand it, stain it, or shoot it then f@#k it!!".
Pretty well sums it up for me. Beautiful collection, btw.
PS: I just picked up a live Sten & Thompson M1A1 on the EE. Paid $2k for both. Figure I got a good deal.[/]
Your not getting it, it's a dead piece of steel made in the Inglis factory by Canadian machinists for the war effort, the history of the Bren gun and every thing about it is fascinating just because it doesn't shoot it should go to a smelter? It's not worth keeping at all?
I know a guy who has dies marked JI and he has never thought about tossing them in the garbage?
Plain and simple the government has rendered both your prohibs and my deacts useless pieces of steel as neither can shoot them casually without being charged.
I`m well aware of that, sad as it is. My problem was with the guy who thought that collecting these, working or not was dumb. As far as I am concerned keeping these in working or prohib condition are better than just letting them fade away out of ownership in Canadian collections.
Yeah, I have to agree with you there. When the time comes I will probably have to sell all of the tools and sights I have over seas. Unfortunately if (when) I go and the laws don`t allow me to transfer my guns to my sons they will be sold to someone in some country where they can be enjoyed for the un-evil guns that they are.
I agree it would be perfect to have left these in mint armory shape and it truly brings a tear to my eye to see them with welds but being useless pieces of steel and not considered firearms any longer by the people who matter they are at least being guaranteed a longer life span in these collections.
As we all know with registration comes confiscation. They,ll be going after the prohibs way before they go after my paper weights.
Us deact guys are like the humane society but for dogs that have been abused by there last owners. Someone has to love these things.
He'll one of mine actually just crapped on the floor. I left the door shut to where I store them and it gets pretty hot in there and one in particular is pretty dirty. I came home and found a little dropping of cosmoline on the ground under it.
I rubbed it's flash hider in it.
If you deactivated them they could keep them. That's how a lot of this stuff gets to be deacts. Better deactivated than in a smelter.
Wouldn't you be happier knowing your guns are still with your family than someone else,s.
My friend works for the OPP. He sees tons of rare guns simply getting smelted because of just that reason, a family member passes on. So in it goes. They purposely make it hard for them to send them to museums so most just follow protocal and just cut them up and melt them down.
The last thing he saw that really disturbed him was a non prohib actually.
A super mint condition long branch sniper. No scratches on the scope and the walnut was flawless.
He believed it was turned in during the amnesty by a family member.
It burned up pretty quick.
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I would rather see prohibs deactivated than destroyed. All will end up as one or the other (except for export, but that's an extraordinarily small percentage). In the end, the choice is yours, keep it in Canadian hands as a dewat or smelt it. I personally choose the former.
In a dark, lonely, stormy night, go to your gun room and hold the dewat in your hands. Feel the weight. Smell the familiar gun oil scent. Now insert the mag, pull back the charging handle, shoulder the 8-10 lb solid bad boy, sight in and pull the trigger. As the bolt slams shut with a loud distinct click, yell BANG at the top of your lung and enjoy that one second rush. Seriously, is there any difference between a #### & click dewat and dry firing your prohib permanent safe queen? Anyone who would bad mouth a #### & click dewat has obviously never owned one or gone through the above experience.
peter2772000
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Not true, not true at all. It's not that I'm bad-mouthing dewats, it just goes against every fibre in my body to fork out big bucks for something that should go bang, but never can (legally or otherwise)
Oh, and one other thing, guys. I do shoot my prohibs. Because my prohibs aren't dewatted, I simply take 'em to my Vermont shooting range and catch up for lost time
The website's been under construction for months, but under the contact section there is an email address listed. You may be able to find out from Jose's son what he had in stock before he passed away.
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Some will never understand that many of us are into guns for their history, engineering and obscurity.
Personally I think "plinking" as many call it is a brain-dead and useless activity. so we're at the opinions and #######s argument again, so please don't call my collection of deactivated arms scrap metal, and I won't look down on the people that casually shoot 10-22s and Sks rifles.
Personally I think "plinking" as many call it is a brain-dead and useless activity. so we're at the opinions and #######s argument again, so please don't call my collection of deactivated arms scrap metal, and I won't look down on the people that casually shoot 10-22s and Sks rifles.
Actually my sons are old enough to have fired my FN's before the big 2004 back-stab. They know that unless things change that they will never get to fire them again legally and are OK with me selling them along with the EIS to the highest bidder out of the country if it comes down to it.
I'm on a pension and still manage to throw a few bucks out. Not enough to save my 12.5's sadly.
Plinking is very useful. Granted that is if the plinkers aim each shot. If they just shoot for the sake of shooting, yes that is brain-dead.
Collecting far overpriced pieces of scrap metal is not useful. Except if you are wendy and the like. She loves pieces of overpriced scrap metal...
Anyone that shells out thousands of dollars for a welded up piece of steel, even if it is "#### and click", is an idiot. The historical value just means your a canadian.
This is coming from someone that is to young to have any prohib licenses at all.
The 1919 in my avatar is a TNW non-restricted.
Collecting far overpriced pieces of scrap metal is not useful. Except if you are wendy and the like. She loves pieces of overpriced scrap metal...
Anyone that shells out thousands of dollars for a welded up piece of steel, even if it is "#### and click", is an idiot. The historical value just means your a canadian.
This is coming from someone that is to young to have any prohib licenses at all.
The 1919 in my avatar is a TNW non-restricted.
Not harsh at all from my point of view. The market is what keeps the price where it is. It should be less than an operable example of the particular firearm. Even with the politically mandated limited market.
Or even better, if it is not a named prohib(or "variant"), destroy the original receiver and fab up a brand new semi-only receiver. Then and only then would it be worth the price. Heck I would even be willing to pay extra, since it can actually be used.
Or even better, if it is not a named prohib(or "variant"), destroy the original receiver and fab up a brand new semi-only receiver. Then and only then would it be worth the price. Heck I would even be willing to pay extra, since it can actually be used.
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A TNW replica of a 1919 has no value to me, maybe around $800 because it's just an aftermarket clone with 50% of the functionality of the real thing and 0% of the originality and historical value. It does the same thing a $200 SKS does. That's what I call a stupid investment.
In your above post you forgot to say that it's just your opinion. Let's leave it at that.
Coyote Ugly
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(In a John Wayne Voice): Well Sgt. Rock, do you wrap 12 belts of .30 ammo around your neck and watch TV (Saving Private Ryan) holding your TNW 1919 and a can of pop!
Opinions are like AH's and everybody has one!
