Is excessive Logging , hurting the bear pop in your area

stang said:
If you're from BC you must be blind. Anywhere you fly over in BC there is almost nothing to see but clear cut after clear cut. The only areas they haven't clear cut are to damn hard to access. On top of that they keep taking out the forestry roads so that the public can't see how little is left. BC's logging ministry/industry used to have the slogan "sustainable yield" we haven't heard that slogan in many years as it's no longer even close to the truth.
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Myself, I'd rather see them reclaimed than viewed as "investments" for the next go around of logging. Here we have such a network of roads throughout the landscape it's ridiculous... At least removing access and allowing roads to grow in has fewer impacts on how water drains, while providing more wildlife habitat all the while restricting vehicle access. All good. Forestry is a vital resource, one which should be managed responsibly, and road reclamation is probably not a bad thing.

BC of course is far from perfect, but they have a more balanced approach (believe it or not!) than other parts of the country when it comes to forestry and other values.
 
hors555 said:
Myself, I'd rather see them reclaimed than viewed as "investments" for the next go around of logging. Here we have such a network of roads throughout the landscape it's ridiculous... At least removing access and allowing roads to grow in has fewer impacts on how water drains, while providing more wildlife habitat all the while restricting vehicle access. All good. Forestry is a vital resource, one which should be managed responsibly, and road reclamation is probably not a bad thing.

BC of course is far from perfect, but they have a more balanced approach (believe it or not!) than other parts of the country when it comes to forestry and other values.
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I think I see this right ..you're from NB . ever been to BC ? fair question
 
Spruster said:
BC and Alberta are not sustainable for the cutting going on now , period .
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What on earth does this have to do with me saying that the current presence of trees is unrelated to if the area has been logged in the past? I’m responding to someone saying you can tell we haven’t logged excessively by flying over a forest.

I’d love to know the metric by which you determine what amount of logging is sustainable; you are clearly an expert…

Turning our forests into monocrops of consistently aged pine on one hand or leaving them be and suppressing fire and ending up with only overgrown poorly spaced mature trees on the other are both bad for game populations and biodiversity in general.

The idea that bear populations don’t thrive off disturbance is pretty ignorant however. A drive of a few hours west of Quesnel where excessive logging has occurred to the degree that salvage spruce blocks the size of postage stamps are being logged and bear densities are higher than anywhere I’ve seen but the coast would reveal that; since you love anecdotal evidence so much.

You seem to think I’m an advocate for our current system; that would be yet another failure of reading comprehension…
 
conor_90 said:
What on earth does this have to do with me saying that the current presence of trees is unrelated to if the area has been logged in the past? I’m responding to someone saying you can tell we haven’t logged excessively by flying over a forest.

I’d love to know the metric by which you determine what amount of logging is sustainable; you are clearly an expert…

Turning our forests into monocrops of consistently aged pine on one hand or leaving them be and suppressing fire and ending up with only overgrown poorly spaced mature trees on the other are both bad for game populations and biodiversity in general.

The idea that bear populations don’t thrive off disturbance is pretty ignorant however. A drive of a few hours west of Quesnel where excessive logging has occurred to the degree that salvage spruce blocks the size of postage stamps are being logged and bear densities are higher than anywhere I’ve seen but the coast would reveal that; since you love anecdotal evidence so much.

You seem to think I’m an advocate for our current system; that would be yet another failure of reading comprehension…
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tell us how you know diff . It's all about money
 
Spruster said:
You're from BC ...fly over the Island to the west coast ( I have done many times ) fishing ..Maybe an eye opening experience you . The island cutting is way over the top . Not sure where or how bears hibernate there anymore but anyone who says logging increases black bear pop's is just dreaming or works in the industry ....
By the way if you don't mind , where are you from. Born. You sound like you have a a lot of logging history and tree's
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You are correct, Vancouver Island has been logged extensively.

And yet Vancouver Island has a very high bear population. Hmmm.....
 
Spruster said:
I think I see this right ..you're from NB . ever been to BC ? fair question
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Lived and worked in BC (forestry) for over a year, but that was a while ago now... I follow things out there and other places out of personal interest more than anything.
 
Gatehouse said:
You are correct, Vancouver Island has been logged extensively.

And yet Vancouver Island has a very high bear population. Hmmm.....
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You right .. I'm gonna say that "excessive logging" is not good . It's not even fun to fly over and see . I love BC by the way
 
All the tree huggers don't understand you need wood to build houses. F trudeau

Tree huggers with cedar roofs, siding, decks and fencing living in a wood framed houses.
 
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Anyone on Van isl knows there's no shortage of bears. Kids get used to walking around them on the way to and from school. Had one in our garage came nose to nose with it lol. Watch a clear cut long enough and a bear will pop up. Heard from friends that their friends who fly over the cornfields here in southern BC see lots of bears. Oh yeah lots of elk on the island not friends of farmers
 
I'm still waiting for spruster to post something other then opinion. He never backed up any of his ideas and just keeps claims he knows more then everyone else because he can see and everyone else is blind...
 
Evanguy said:
I'm still waiting for spruster to post something other then opinion. He never backed up any of his ideas and just keeps claims he knows more then everyone else because he can see and everyone else is blind...
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Don't hold your breath.
OH, and Clear your inbox, as you will have pm's coming. LMAO
 
Not so much "logging" in SE SK, but clearing every little bush and pothole so it can be farmed is definitely affecting habitat. But then, so is covering everything with concrete and asphalt re cities. Calgary is a prime example.
 
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