Is excessive Logging , hurting the bear pop in your area

BC and Alberta are not sustainable for the cutting going on now , period .

Been in the forest industry in many capacities over my long career. Is this just your opinion or are you basing it in fact? Forestry in Canada is certainly sustainable in its physical current form. However, it is not sustainable politically as current leftist governments, both federal and provincial are playing environmental politics with a once thriving industry. Politicians have killed fishing, mining, and forestry in this province ,BC. Socialism is the friend of none.
 
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Not so much "logging" in SE SK, but clearing every little bush and pothole so it can be farmed is definitely affecting habitat. But then, so is covering everything with concrete and asphalt re cities. Calgary is a prime example.

Using the prairie city with by far the largest natural and park areas per capita isn't really a good example at all. ;)

I see many cutblocks, many tree-plants, many roads, many pads and well. Still lots of bears. Still lots of wildlife. I think hunting near larger population centers is worse than logging etc, just because there are more hunters.
 
From what I see the 1000's of acres flattened every year and the disturbance .Logging in the winter has to kill alot of denned up cubs . Bear's , especially the black are taking a kicking . In new logged out areas where there was once numerous bears are now dwindling . Does it matter where , spring comes sooner or maybe not

What have you seen in your region
Does it affect moose / elk and other game too

Logging does not kill denned cubs and bears. Need to do some homework here man. Logging is seasonal here in BC and when fire season or winter approaches, logging ceases. Canada has some of the most stringent environmental standards for forestry.
 
I'm still waiting for spruster to post something other then opinion. He never backed up any of his ideas and just keeps claims he knows more then everyone else because he can see and everyone else is blind...

Well, to be fair, he DID post that he really had no actual experiences to draw on, a while back, that he did not actually know anything to back his opinions.

He strikes me as a bit of a ###ual intellectual who should be a poster child for retro-abortions, and a founding member of the IDtenT Club.

For a guy that knows so little, he sure does speak with the conviction of a zealot!

Maybe the logging around here isn't excessive enough. We have LOTS of black bears, even had a couple Grizzlies digging on the hills out front of my house last spring.

There are basically two things about logging you gotta know. One, is that it is as close as you can come, to recreating a burn environment, without actually burning the area. The other is that if the fires are all put out, and the logging is not done, the whole place will eventually burn down in one MASSIVE fire, and the entire place will become essentially a monoculture, rather than a mixed age forest with patches of varied habitat scattered across the landscape. A single habitat forest is only really good bear country for part of it's life, and having the trees all age out at the same time just makes the land into a sterile dark forest with almost nothing of note, living in it.

If this gets me an entertaining PM, I'll post it for yer edification and laughter! :)
 
the valid question should be : if before any kind of humans settled were they more or less bears in a specific area?

human activities and bears do not work well except when the bears find a way to get and gain something out of it.
 
the valid question should be : if before any kind of humans settled were they more or less bears in a specific area?

human activities and bears do not work well except when the bears find a way to get and gain something out of it.

I would bet that the arrival of humans and agriculture, went a long ways towards improving bears access to reliable and high quality food sources, in a large part of the country.

May be different in areas where the hardwood forests provided a lot of mast, in the form of various nuts and acorns, but here in central(ish) BC, the arrival of agriculture made finding a decent meal, all that much easier.
 
Logging does not kill denned cubs and bears. Need to do some homework here man. Logging is seasonal here in BC and when fire season or winter approaches, logging ceases. Canada has some of the most stringent environmental standards for forestry.

good point I never thought of that ..Alberta is pretty much all winter on frozen ground . big diff yes
 
Logging does not kill denned cubs and bears. Need to do some homework here man. Logging is seasonal here in BC and when fire season or winter approaches, logging ceases. Canada has some of the most stringent environmental standards for forestry.

I’m guessing you’ve spent most of your time on the coast, as winter logging is a larger portion of the interior season than summer. Lots of ground that cannot be logged in summer as it is too wet, soft and at risk of severe site degradation if logged in the summer.
 
I’m guessing you’ve spent most of your time on the coast, as winter logging is a larger portion of the interior season than summer. Lots of ground that cannot be logged in summer as it is too wet, soft and at risk of severe site degradation if logged in the summer.

Add that summer is peak fire season, and a lot of the bush work is shut down completely.
 
Add that summer is peak fire season, and a lot of the bush work is shut down completely.

Yes, but he mentioned shutdown in summer due to fire season, which applies equally to interior and coastal sites when the conditions are right. This was why I didn’t mention it again.
 
well, to be fair, he did post that he really had no actual experiences to draw on, a while back, that he did not actually know anything to back his opinions.

He strikes me as a bit of a ###ual intellectual who should be a poster child for retro-abortions, and a founding member of the idtent club.

For a guy that knows so little, he sure does speak with the conviction of a zealot!

Maybe the logging around here isn't excessive enough. We have lots of black bears, even had a couple grizzlies digging on the hills out front of my house last spring.

there are basically two things about logging you gotta know. One, is that it is as close as you can come, to recreating a burn environment, without actually burning the area. The other is that if the fires are all put out, and the logging is not done, the whole place will eventually burn down in one massive fire, and the entire place will become essentially a monoculture, rather than a mixed age forest with patches of varied habitat scattered across the landscape. A single habitat forest is only really good bear country for part of it's life, and having the trees all age out at the same time just makes the land into a sterile dark forest with almost nothing of note, living in it.

if this gets me an entertaining pm, i'll post it for yer edification and laughter! :)

lol ...............
 
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LOL and where did you learn this ..pls tell us . web maybe ? Dr google forest kinda guy

Living in BC, in a Logging town with two mills, taking Forestry and Mining classes in school, taught by Registered Professional Foresters, as well as qualified Geologists. One Family member is a Professional Faller (Cuts down trees for a living), another was heavily involved in the business side of one of the Local mills.
Further to that, I live on a family owned farm (fourth generation) that has more or less 3000 acres of Registered Woodlot, primarily Douglas Fir, for which we are required by law to have a Registered Professional Forester provide us with a sign-off for our Long and Short term Cutting plans and remediation after the cuts take place on it. A large number of the Family Business decisions hinge around what our cut Quota is at the time, and what the price per cubic meter of wood is.

Our woodlot has been producing Income for our family for the past 85 or so years, that I can prove from Financial records, and likely before that.

Your experience comes from what again? Some pamphlet that told you you should be outraged about something you know almost nothing about?
 
Living in BC, in a Logging town with two mills, taking Forestry and Mining classes in school, taught by Registered Professional Foresters, as well as qualified Geologists. One Family member is a Professional Faller (Cuts down trees for a living), another was heavily involved in the business side of one of the Local mills.
Further to that, I live on a family owned farm (fourth generation) that has more or less 3000 acres of Registered Woodlot, primarily Douglas Fir, for which we are required by law to have a Registered Professional Forester provide us with a sign-off for our Long and Short term Cutting plans and remediation after the cuts take place on it. A large number of the Family Business decisions hinge around what our cut Quota is at the time, and what the price per cubic meter of wood is.

Our woodlot has been producing Income for our family for the past 85 or so years, that I can prove from Financial records, and likely before that.

Your experience comes from what again? Some pamphlet that told you you should be outraged about something you know almost nothing about?

so money is an important factor in all this . I can see where you learned about the trees and money . No offense . it's a business I understand
 
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