Is general ignorance a legitimate defence on the EE ?

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Recently I came across an ad for an almost matching non-Russian capture 98k

The fellow said, NOT a Russian capture, no “X”s or markings.

Of course there were no photos on the ad. I did find out that there was prominent electro pencil markings on the bolt.

I for one am becoming distressed by the increased EE ads that do not include photos so that one could simply determine if the seller is in ignorance of a fact

If you receive a rifle that is not exactly as advertised, that the seller represents as something more superior than what you received, would you at least leave neutral feedback?
 
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"Item received [slightly/moderately/significantly] not as described"

"Item actual condition [below/as/above] advertised condition"


Take screenshots of ads for items you buy, if you need these later as a basis for an argument.

Also, buy something with pictures... if the seller won't post/email pictures, then move on.
 
Yep, negative. But I would offer them the chance to make good on the "error". I did it once myself, out of sheer "newbiness". I paid back the purchaser, paid both shipping and got it back from him. Your seller might be honest and pay for his mistake like I did.
 
I am selling a few guns on the EE, it is daunting to try and get things right! Picture tell most of the story and the offer of more pics is good! Good quality pics of areas that are of interest to the buyer are very important! If no pics or links to pics then ask,, if they do not comply, then move on, emailing pictures is easy, so if they don't want to, then it is sketchy at best!
 
Nic3500 said:
Yep, negative. But I would offer them the chance to make good on the "error". I did it once myself, out of sheer "newbiness". I paid back the purchaser, paid both shipping and got it back from him. Your seller might be honest and pay for his mistake like I did.
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I did send him a PM a few hours ago asking him if he going to disclose. I hope he does.
 
I think I asked that fellow for more info or pictures ,and he would not reply. there are dishonest people out there. no pictures don't buy it.
always make sure there is a return policy.
If he won't make it right . go negative on the feed back.
 
Ask questions. Ask for detailed photos. As a buyer I've made the mistake of not asking enough questions. Or not asking the right questions. If I haven't done my due diligence as a buyer, it's on me. If the item was actually misrepresented by the seller, well, then I have a reason to be annoyed. I personally make sure I get good photos of things I'm interested in buying, and provide good photos of things I'm selling, so there's no misunderstanding either way.
 
If someone offers you something at a price and you begin the transaction, then another buyer comes in and offers a larger sum then they get it, would you consider that dishonest? Negative review?
 
gaff said:
I think I asked that fellow for more info or pictures ,and he would not reply. there are dishonest people out there. no pictures don't buy it.
always make sure there is a return policy.
If he won't make it right . go negative on the feed back.
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I definitely concur with this. There should be a reasonable expectation of an inspection period if you are buying used guns sight unseen. When I list something for sale, I specify it in the advertisement.
 
DT741 said:
Did you ask for pictures ?
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This! Did you ask for photos? If not then next time make sure you do. I got burnt once on fuzzy pics. Get clear ones. If they keep sending fuzzy ones 'because my cell phones not too good' -- pass on it. Thats my hard earned experience.
 
'Return policies' .... interesting question. I have always offered (preferred) FtF meetings for anything I want to sell. But return policies are a little complex - is it due to buyers remorse? If so - was there another buyer you could have sold to? Is it because the purchaser was just doing a little 'comparison' shopping or his own field trials? I had a guy show up to buy an BMW 528i from me once with coveralls and a pocket of tools ...'just wanted to check a few things out under the car' -- when I thought he had been 'f'ing' about under the car a little too long I stuck my head under and found him trying to remove the O2 sensor ... apparently he needed parts for his car. I understand the reticence of buying a 'pig in a poke' but that can cut both ways. Not sure what the answer is - fortunately by far the majority of people I have purchased from have been excellent sellers with honest descriptions.
 
I use snapagogo I think that’s how it’s spelt, it’s pretty easy to use. It would be nice if there was a way to just upload directly to the site.
 
kutler said:
Recently I came across an ad for an almost matching non-Russian capture 98k

The fellow said, NOT a Russian capture, no “X”s or markings.

Of course there were no photos on the ad. I did find out that there was prominent electro pencil markings on the bolt.

I for one am becoming distressed by the increased EE ads that do not include photos so that one could simply determine if the seller is in ignorance of a fact

If you receive a rifle that is not exactly as advertised, that the seller represents as something more superior than what you received, would you at least leave neutral feedback?
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You haven't proven it is a Russian Capture, so he could be correct. Many different nations used electro-penciling, and K98ks certainly got around postwar. Not saying it isn't or is a Russian Capture, simply it could have been another nation that did it.
 
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