Is is illegal to remove the mag safety in Canada?..

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Hi,

I have a Ruger P345 and it has a mag safety. I am using it for IDPA and was wondering if it would be ok to remove the mag safety? It is very easy to remove and I have read it actual makes the gun perform better. Would this be considered a modification that I would have to inform the CFO about?

TIA :confused:
 
cbabes said:
Hi,

I have a Ruger P345 and it has a mag safety. I am using it for IDPA and was wondering if it would be ok to remove the mag safety? It is very easy to remove and I have read it actual makes the gun perform better. Would this be considered a modification that I would have to inform the CFO about?

TIA :confused:
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Do you inform the CFO every time your gun has a malfunction?;)
 
I believe you only read enough to confuse yourself. You should notify the CFC if you make a modification that changes the discription of the gun. LIke putting a 7 1/2 in. barrel on a 5in. gun. Or putting a 5in barrel on a 4in. prohibited gun. But if you nickel plated the gun , changed the grips or put a new safety on or took it of , how does this change their information . They didn't know what it had in the first place. And if you don't have a mag safety and it came with one , isn't the gun malfunctioning, when you can pull the trigger with the mag removed.
 
"...isn't the gun malfunctioning, when you can pull the trigger with the mag removed..." Nope. Mag safeties are mostly a European thing. The one on a BHP causes the trigger pull to be much heavier too. The only thing you need to do is inform another shooter about it if you let them shoot your pistol. Mind you, the chances of them having a round in the chamber with the mag out are slim, but it's still a good idea to tell them. Just like it is telling them about a very light trigger on a rifle.
"...would have to inform the CFO about?..." No.
 
cbabes said:
Are you being sarcastic? No need to be a goof! I read that gun modifications had to be reported and didn't know if this type of modification was included.
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My we're touchy first thing in the morning........:rolleyes:

Did you notice the **;)**?

Now if your mag safety was malfunctioning and didn't work, would you inform the CFO?;);););););););););)
 
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My Mossy shotgun has been modified several times without the CFO having to know...swapped to an 18.5" barrel and bought a Hogue Tamer pistol grip. Still long enough (just) to be non-restricted...
 
Because IDPA could be found liable if it were to allow the removal of the
mag disconnect (It is considered by the manufacturer to be a safety
device), it's removal is considered contrary to IDPA rules and guns so
altered would not be allowed to compete in IDPA. That is IDPA's official
policy.

IDPA does not expect it's SO's to be firearm
engineers. Nor does IDPA expect SO's to be contacting manufacturers to determine if
a particular gun was shipped from the factory with or without the mag
disconnect. If the SO KNOWS the gun came with a mag disconnect then it
would be within the SO's rights to disallow the gun.
 
cbabes said:
Hi,

I have a Ruger P345 and it has a mag safety. I am using it for IDPA and was wondering if it would be ok to remove the mag safety? It is very easy to remove and I have read it actual makes the gun perform better. Would this be considered a modification that I would have to inform the CFO about?

TIA :confused:
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It's not illegal, but for IDPA you cannot disable a safety device.

P18 of thew rule book.

Section 1 - Non IDPA legal mods for all divisions.

Sub-section E - Disconnection or disabling of any safety device on any gun.
 
Despite the name, I don't understand how a magazine safety can be considered a "safety device". Being unable to fire the piece with the magazine removed does not make the gun any more or less safe. A safety is something that prevents a gun from firing at an inconvenient time. The magazine safety would not meet this definition.
 
Boomer said:
Despite the name, I don't understand how a magazine safety can be considered a "safety device". Being unable to fire the piece with the magazine removed does not make the gun any more or less safe. A safety is something that prevents a gun from firing at an inconvenient time. The magazine safety would not meet this definition.
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It's called a magazine disconnect.


Where did this pearl come from?
 
quite a few people on this bbs seem to enjoy being overly sarcastic so I can understand any misconceptions, apparently it is common to recieve pms from some members who disagree with your posts.
You are modifying a mechanical atribute of your pistol not a physical one so I would say you are ok. but something inside my head has to ask why?
 
I think I've got this figured out. IDPA may not look closely at your gun to see if you made a modification to your gun that is contrary to it's rules so it's up to individual's conscience to decide if they want an unfair advantage in competition.
 
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