LordEvilPepper
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viper PST FFP moa 4-16 they go for $1100 USD now... about $1500 north of the border.
Is it just me or has vortex become garbage?
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viper PST FFP moa 4-16 they go for $1100 USD now... about $1500 north of the border.
Yep.
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Funny how I have the same identical bubble level's on both my rifles as the Canadian sniper
tingting7mm
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I have ever had one but my brother had two vortex scopes and had problems with. I use leupold my self and ever had a problem with them.
A friend of mine has a PST gen 1 on a 338 lapua and shoots 1000 and 1200 yards holds zero , great durable scope
I currently have 5 .1 PST 6-24×50,2 HST 6-24×50,HS 4-16 ×44,HS 4-16×50
I have never had an issue. I find with my near sighted eyes these scopes really work well. The reticle is just the right thickness and no reticle blur. I had 2 sightrons and always had reticle blur. I sold them both. My next scope will be a gen 11 PST. I've had 2 crossfires and a strike fire 11 early on and never an issue. I'll stick with vortex, good bang for my buck.
I have never had an issue. I find with my near sighted eyes these scopes really work well. The reticle is just the right thickness and no reticle blur. I had 2 sightrons and always had reticle blur. I sold them both. My next scope will be a gen 11 PST. I've had 2 crossfires and a strike fire 11 early on and never an issue. I'll stick with vortex, good bang for my buck.
Funny how I have the same identical bubble level's on both my rifles as the Canadian sniper
I'll have to admit I'm a beginner to longer range shooting and scopes in general... what is that bubble level for? Making sure everything is still level if rifle is jostled or dropped???
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Canting errors are huge at long range, a bubble level gives a constant to work with. Think you can judge level from
The reticle? Everyone thinks that, until they try a level. Think your reticle tracks exactly straight up
and down for a couple turns of the turret? Maybe it does, and maybe it doesn't, but you'll never know if you don't even known if the scope is level. Crooked tracking can be fixed with the correct
amount of corrected mounting, but you'll never do that without a level.
Was a left or right miss due to a bad wind call, or a canted rifle. With the level you'll know.
The reticle? Everyone thinks that, until they try a level. Think your reticle tracks exactly straight up
and down for a couple turns of the turret? Maybe it does, and maybe it doesn't, but you'll never know if you don't even known if the scope is level. Crooked tracking can be fixed with the correct
amount of corrected mounting, but you'll never do that without a level.
Was a left or right miss due to a bad wind call, or a canted rifle. With the level you'll know.
This!!!!
I will add when you see a cant red dot on a DMR rifle is because at >50 yards and really under >25y where you would use it it doesn't matter. At 1000 yards, times that small variance by 20 and add in the Moa difference it can be a big miss. It really helps with proper sighting in and groupings at well having a constant.
In the last two months I've returned two Vortex Venoms and one Sparc II. Both Venoms went haywire and the Sparc II had the worst mounting screws I've ever encountered, I've never stripped a torx bolt ever before but managed to do it on these. I just don't trust their products and the fact that they lead with their warranty service should tell you everything you need to know, great marketing, great service, sh!tty product.
I just spoke to a vortex specialist on the phone in the US 1-800 426-0048 I asked about the new vortex PST GEN 2 . I asked if the glass would be different then the GEN 1 PST , he said as far as glass itself he can assure me that the optical clarity has improved from the GEN 1 to the GEN 2 . He also stated that it's not always the glass itself it's the way the optic lens are lined up and put together and internals that improves glass clarity . He said if you give a good cook (chef) bad ingredients and you give a bad cook good ingredients the good cook can make you a better dish .
So in the field you can make quick adjustments with this level if you see you are canted???
before you make the shot look at the bubble to make sure its level thats all
With a swivelling bipod it's very fast. I'll often level the gun before I get behind it.
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Love them. PERIOD.
Yes and these are a must for a Harris swivel bi Pod, I love that thing makes it so easy to increase and decrease the tension and it's quick
I was also told the ocular lens will be bigger on this model, magnification wont be stiff like GEN1 price at Grouse river and PnD will be 1,479$ for sfp 5-25x50mm
That is why you want a swivel bipod. For harris get the lever.
With my TRG bipod level, load to lock in position. A lot easier than harris knobs.
Many different type of anti-cant.
rail mount, top scope mount, side scope, side swivel.
I like the top scope mount just in front of the mag ring (if you have room, very tight on S&Bs), right eye on reticle, left eye on level.
With my TRG bipod level, load to lock in position. A lot easier than harris knobs.
Many different type of anti-cant.
rail mount, top scope mount, side scope, side swivel.
I like the top scope mount just in front of the mag ring (if you have room, very tight on S&Bs), right eye on reticle, left eye on level.
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