Is it legal to own/wear bullet proof vest?

stripping good people of another layer of security through law so that people who don't obey the law won't have them. sounds strangely familiar.
 
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HKMark23 said:
The real concern is that left wing right brained demand for "justification of choice" is getting stronger and stronger. At issue seems to be the right of individuals to have or do anything that falls askew of what "group think" liberals feel on the matter. Otherwise, what would be the harm and what concern is it to anyone else? Rightly;

Q: "Why does Fred want a bulletproof vest?"

A: "Who gives a f**k!"
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Giddee up!
 
Guys.. I heard wearing body armor is illegal in Mexico... The ban was very effective at preventing those Zetas from dumping 35 bodies on a public roa.... Oh, wait... :D

Realistically, I don't see how banning vests will prevent gangbangers from offing each other.. Armor or not, they'll find both the excuses and the means to do it.
 
TRaTSeRiF said:
Guys.. I heard wearing body armor is illegal in Mexico... The ban was very effective at preventing those Zetas from dumping 35 bodies on a public roa.... Oh, wait... :D

Realistically, I don't see how banning vests will prevent gangbangers from offing each other.. Armor or not, they'll find both the excuses and the means to do it.
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I'm going to guess, that since they're not using registered guns, and using those guns to murder people, they're not specifically concerned with whether or not it's legal to wear body armour. Or, conversely, if they DO have an RPAL and buy their guns legally, they are allowed to buy body armour.

Not exactly a well-thought out piece of legislation, but hey, at least it cost a million dollars to pass!!
 
Hmm. So I can hire a security guard to transport my valuables, and he can wear a bullet proof vest. But I cannot buy one for use in transporting my own valuables?

Doesn't seem right.

(Not that I have valuables worth that much, but hey, maybe one day I will be rich.)
 
This all comes down to cops being scared of a rebellion or uprising, it's a lot harder to put down someone wearing level III body armor then it is a regular person, also the cops don't want common people having better (higher) level protection then they do.
 
For the record... bullet "proof" vest... aren't...

If you do....buyer beware Kevlar has a service life. After some time the ballistic integrity of the Kevlar will degrade.
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While it's true that it has a "service" life... it's more a matter of the manufacturers protecting themselves...

The US National Institute of Justice did numerous test on "old" body armor, and as far as I recall, the panels still stopped the rounds they were designed for.
 
To those that have never worn a vest: they are hot (especially in the summer), uncomfortable if they are not made to fit you, restrictive depending on the level and type of vest, and damn expensive. I have one that I bought for work and it is made to fit me. I haven't had to wear it for 3 years now and I don't miss it one bit. The last place I would be caught wearing one is on the range during the summer.
 
sillymike said:
For the record... bullet "proof" vest... aren't...



While it's true that it has a "service" life... it's more a matter of the manufacturers protecting themselves...

The US National Institute of Justice did numerous test on "old" body armor, and as far as I recall, the panels still stopped the rounds they were designed for.
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Most vests "over-stop". For example, IIA is NOT rated for shotgun slugs - but tests have shown that those types of vests, in fact, DO stop them (although the blunt trauma is quite a bit more). After a long period of time (twenty years), material fray and loosening of the stitching and "density" becomes an issue, although frequently, the rated protection is still entirely there. Again, we need to keep in mind NIJ results take into account the blaunt trauma, not just if penetration occured.
 
N.B. man attacked, killed by dominant buck

RCMP Sgt. Marc Violette said the bucks use their racks to pin their adversary to the ground, then put all their weight on them. "All their weight is on their neck and they’ll grind. Those antlers are sharp and they’ll poke skin and muscle tissue very easily."
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1268188.html
Halifax, NS | Thu, October 13th, 2011​
N.B. man attacked, killed by dominant buck

By The Canadian Press
Thu, Oct 13 - 5:03 AM

SAINT-LEONARD, N.B. — A New Brunswick man who was attacked by a male deer died after a violent struggle, the RCMP said Wednesday.

Donald Dube, 55, was killed Sunday evening while feeding his herd of domesticated deer behind his home in Saint-Leonard.

RCMP Sgt. Marc Violette said investigators believe the dominant buck in the herd attacked and killed Dube with its antlers and hoofs.

Violette said there were signs of a struggle so violent that Dube was missing a boot and sock when his body was found by officers in a pen where the animals were kept.

"The animal probably stomped on him and used his antlers to rough him up and throw him around like a rag doll," he said.

An autopsy concluded that Dube suffered massive internal injuries.

Violette said the homeowner went out to feed the animals and his wife got worried when he didn’t return home or answer her calls to his cellphone. She called police, who went to the rural home to find Dube’s body.

Violette said it’s rutting season — a time of year when bucks compete against each other to mate with does.

"It’s obvious he was attacked by one of the bucks, the dominant male in the herd," he said.

"Adult male deer this time of year have significant antlers and in the wild they are very adept at using them to fend off predators —coyotes, foxes, rabid dogs, what have you."

He said the bucks use their racks to pin their adversary to the ground, then put all their weight on them.

"All their weight is on their neck and they’ll grind. Those antlers are sharp and they’ll poke skin and muscle tissue very easily."

Doris Deschenes, a neighbour and longtime friend of Dube’s, said in a telephone interview that provincial game wardens killed the buck and about 10 other deer on the family property.

She said some members of the Dube family came to her home while the wardens shot the deer with darts and then took away the bodies to dispose of them in a landfill.

Violette didn’t know why Dube kept deer, but suspects it was a hobby and "for a bit of meat here and there."

Deschenes confirmed that her friend kept the deer as a hobby, and she said he was very confident in handling them.

She said Dube was well known in the area, and neighbours were deeply saddened by his death.

"It’s tragic. . . . This is something that nobody has ever heard of. Nobody here has ever been killed by a deer in his backyard," she said.

© 2011 The Halifax Herald Limited
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1268188.html
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What purpose served putting down the deer again ???? That is normal behavior , so no need to destroy any animals , unless that buck was a repeat offender..:rolleyes:

James Howlett said:
I don't understand how a vest would have helped him...
But this just happened, are they sharing the meat?
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Body armor with kevlar will resist punctures and slashes also, so it "might" have given him the extra chance of survival.
 
TERMINATOR101CA said:
What purpose served putting down the deer again ???? That is normal behavior , so no need to destroy any animals , unless that buck was a repeat offender..:rolleyes:



Body armor with kevlar will resist punctures and slashes also, so it "might" have given him the extra chance of survival.
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having vennicin, what other reason is there? :D

Besides, how could you possibly prove it was the same buck? Unless they're tagged, which takes significant pre-planning and can make the meat inedible.
 
TERMINATOR101CA said:
What purpose served putting down the deer again ???? That is normal behavior , so no need to destroy any animals , unless that buck was a repeat offender..:rolleyes:



Body armor with kevlar will resist punctures and slashes also, so it "might" have given him the extra chance of survival.
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Not all body armour is puncture and slash resistant. There are vests that offer ballistic protection only, stab/slash protection only or a combination of both. A standard lvl 2 or 3 SBA vest will not protect you from being stabbed.
 
Joe549 said:
Not all body armour is puncture and slash resistant. There are vests that offer ballistic protection only, stab/slash protection only or a combination of both. A standard lvl 2 or 3 SBA vest will not protect you from being stabbed.
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This is what I was thinking, I thought most were not puncture/slash resistant. Although I'm sure it would have helped more than a flannel shirt or something like that.
Horrible way to die, especially on your own property.

So if armor is legal, how about an Iron Man suit?
 
I wear armour every day. It sucks. When I can take it off I do. It is hot, even in the winter. It is not stab resistant but will slow it down. I have level 3,4 and 5(hard to get). The 3 is sba it is light. The level 4 is rated for AP 30 cal round multi hit. The level 5 is for AP 338 rounds upto 7000ft/lbs energy single hit.

The level 4 weighs 10lbs per plate. including the vest to carry it in it comes in a 23 lbs. It is worn over top of the SBA and it is very restrictive.

Ceramic plates have to be x-rayed ever year to look for cracks. If you drop them they can/will break and are no longer good. SBA when worn every day can does frey before they expire. I generally get new SBA every year.

I have been able to test several different kinds of armour. If it is freyed it doesn't do as good. I shot one level 3 pannel with 45acp out of a beretta storm with a 19" barrel. muzzle velosity is 1400fps with a 230gr bullet. The pannel stopped the bullet but it left a dent in the wood backstop that was 4" deep and about 8" wide = broken ribs sternum ect.

As for what it does to stop bullets. SBA it stops the bullet from going through you. You get all the energy.

Personally I see no need for it. I have it and can wear it and I don't. For the amount it might help in a hunting season or range visit I don't see much of a point. Your more likely to get hit in your vehicle on your way.

This is just my .02
 
Joe549 said:
Not all body armour is puncture and slash resistant. There are vests that offer ballistic protection only, stab/slash protection only or a combination of both. A standard lvl 2 or 3 SBA vest will not protect you from being stabbed.
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Never said that all body armor was stab/slash resistant . Notice I mentioned Kevlar only. Then again, the deer didn't use a knife so the vest would have prevented penetration at some degree , much better than normal clothing.
 
I had the idea of getting body armor for the same reason i wanted to buy a rifle. The world isn't doing so well so getting lots of emergency supplies plus a gun and armor seems like a good idea. Having said that, food and gun can last a long time, body armor probably can't more than 5 years or so.
 
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