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Hey guys:

Is it legal to shoot a "nuisance" animal without a hunting licence?

At my cottage, there is a racoon that is causing some rather significant damage (shredding screens on windows, ripping out weather stripping ect) to my neighbours place and acts in a fairly aggressive manner to humans and the neighbours dog. It is quite ballsy coming around morning, noon and night.
 
3 S means: Shoot, Shovel and Shut up.

But in this case it's not necessary providing there is no municipal restriction on firearms discharge. From the Act:

Protection of property

31. (1) If a person believes on reasonable grounds that wildlife is damaging or is about to damage the person’s property, the person may, on the person’s land,

(a) harass the wildlife for the purpose of deterring it from damaging the person’s property; or

(b) capture or kill the wildlife.

Agents

(2) The person may use an agent to harass, capture or kill the wildlife under subsection (1) if the agent has the authorization of the Minister or belongs to a class of agents prescribed by the regulations.
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http://www.canlii.org/on/laws/sta/1997c.41/20080421/whole.html#BK34
 
soulchaser said:
Hey guys:

Is it legal to shoot a "nuisance" animal without a hunting licence?

At my cottage, there is a racoon that is causing some rather significant damage (shredding screens on windows, ripping out weather stripping ect) to my neighbours place and acts in a fairly aggressive manner to humans and the neighbours dog. It is quite ballsy coming around morning, noon and night.
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Seems to me as though the problem is for your neighbours and their dog to resolve. Why get yourself in hot water on someone else's account?
 
"...racoons considered a game animal in Ontario?..." Yep.
"...coming around morning, noon..." Any sign of illness? Foaming at the mouth, staggering, attacking inanimate objects, etc? Shoot it and call the MNR. It may be rabid.
 
Here's a what if... you can buy cans of pepper spray for dogs. The squirty kind that joggers carry and shoots far..
Spray it. It may learn.

I don't like them.

I had to buy 30 dollar garbage cans to keep the little bastards from tearing it all over my yard. One night we went outside and there were like 3 of them climbing up a peach tree I just planted, it bent over and broke and died. They have raided my garden.

I talked to my closest neighbours about using my crossbow if I got the opportunity and they love animals, but were for the idea as they have two little yappy dogs that wouldn't have a chance against a racoon. A ####zu isn't tough enough to fight, but it's walnut sized brain isn't big enough to know any better.

Ryan
Mine are just too sneaky to remove...
 
gitrdun said:
Seems to me as though the problem is for your neighbours and their dog to resolve. Why get yourself in hot water on someone else's account?
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Because the last time I was there it planted itself in the driveway about half way between the car and the cottage pacing back and forth. when I took a step outside to pack the car, it took a step towards me, I took another towards it, and it took another towards me, somewhat aggressively. So I went inside and grabbed my machete, came back outside, and the little bastard just stood there pacing left to right. It was actually funny. We had an old fashion stare down/standoff. My parents and brother have had similar experiances with it as well. It doesn't come around every day.

When all this started, I originally thought it may have babies near by, but I have not seen any.

In terms of it looking sick, it appears to be healty, no foaming at the mouth, and from the size of it, it seems like it eats pretty well.

I also feel I should get involved because the neighbours don't own firearms, and have 2 of the sweetest little granddaughters who come to visit. Naturally, neither the neighbours nor us want to see this thing attack them. They have bought a couple machete's and don't go anywhere without them, so if I can take care of the problem with some lead, I will.
 
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I forgot, once at UBC's Vanier's Place dorms, I kicked a racoon in the ass pretty hard. It was half into the garbage can outside the main doors. It was a very large racoon and I almost broke my toes. It was solid. It pulled up out of the can, made a horrible threatening noise at us and walked away, carrying it's new found half orange. At one point, I thought I may have started something that I did not want to finish.
 
soulchaser said:
Because the last time I was there it planted itself in the driveway about half way between the car and the cottage pacing back and forth. when I took a step outside to pack the car, it took a step towards me, I took another towards it, and it took another towards me, somewhat aggressively. So I went inside and grabbed my machete, came back outside, and the little bastard just stood there pacing left to right. It was actually funny. We had an old fashion stare down/standoff. My parents and brother have had similar experiances with it as well. It doesn't come around every day.

When all this started, I originally thought it may have babies near by, but I have not seen any.

In terms of it looking sick, it appears to be healty, no foaming at the mouth, and from the size of it, it seems like it eats pretty well.
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That is 2 funny man. You weight what?....he/she weights 15 lbs. I know I'll get hung for this. But just because we are gunNutz and all have guns, doesn't mean that everything that crosses out paths must die. That's just my two bits anyhow :redface: I sure as heck woulda like to see your face off with a racoon and a machete. That would be YouTube material buddy.
 
I trapped the meanest coon I've ever seen with a squirrel trap and some peanut butter and bread. the thing was huge, barely fit in the cage and had no tail. Anywhere that it's paw could reach outside the cage he had dug up and when I found him back there he was making some f***ked up noises, I was gonna throw him off a cliff but he never got into our garbage or anything so I ended up propping the door of the cage open with a stick and running away.
 
soulchaser said:
Because the last time I was there it planted itself in the driveway about half way between the car and the cottage pacing back and forth. when I took a step outside to pack the car, it took a step towards me, I took another towards it, and it took another towards me, somewhat aggressively.
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At that point I'd be playing football with the steel toed boots.:)
 
gitrdun said:
That is 2 funny man. You weight what?....he/she weights 15 lbs. I know I'll get hung for this. But just because we are gunNutz and all have guns, doesn't mean that everything that crosses out paths must die. That's just my two bits anyhow :redface: I sure as heck woulda like to see your face off with a racoon and a machete. That would be YouTube material buddy.
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LOL.

Yeah, BUT although it appears healthy, I don't really want to take a chance getting bitten or scratched. Who the hell knows what kid of disease it could have. I would rather line it up with a rifle and deal with it that way.

And no, I don't think any animal that crosses my path should die. As a matter of fact, I have never shot an animal in my life. But think about it. I or my family are there every other weekend (sometimes every weekend) and given it has damaged my neighbours place, it could do alot of damage in the time we are not there. When you compare repair bills to the life of a pain in the ass racoon, it's bye-bye racoon.
 
gitrdun said:
I know I'll get hung for this. But just because we are gunNutz and all have guns, doesn't mean that everything that crosses out paths must die.
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No it doesn't but in this case with a recurrent animal, the damage it's doing and the apparent absence of fear of humans and dogs the only ways to solve the problem are either relocating or turning its lights out.
 
Claybuster said:
No it doesn't but in this case with a recurrent animal, the damage it's doing and the apparent absence of fear of humans and dogs the only ways to solve the problem are either relocating or turning its lights out.
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OK, I'll give you that...:)

Our "pests" at home are badgers, not raccons. We don't have them out west. My blue healer dog "jake" once got a hold of a badger. Now, badgers are deadly, rabid or not, they are just mean, ornery and bad ass. My dog has this thing by the neck, I ran to the house and got the 12 gauge. By the time I got back to the fight, the badger had lost the fight, and I finished him off. When I told my buds that Jake had killed a badger, they were in disbelief, what a MF dog. When Jake was alive, no one, but I mean no one entered our property without the "bosse's" approval. Raccons on the other hand just seem like a cute cudly friendly animal. Maybe that's just my wrong westerly impression.
 
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soulchaser said:
Hey guys:

Is it legal to shoot a "nuisance" animal without a hunting licence?

At my cottage, there is a racoon that is causing some rather significant damage (shredding screens on windows, ripping out weather stripping ect) to my neighbours place and acts in a fairly aggressive manner to humans and the neighbours dog. It is quite ballsy coming around morning, noon and night.
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If it's causing damage to your property, then it's fair game (hope your out in the country tho and I mean no neighbors)
 
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